Saturday, September 22, 2012

Officials from Porter Ridge game: No fighting last night, Pirates back in playoffs

Porter Ridge athletics director Bill Rogers had a rough few hours after Friday's 17-7 win over Providence Day.

Three Pirates starters were ejected from the game, during what appeared to be a fight on the field. Those players ran onto the field, along with several other Pirates players. State association rules call for any team that has three or more players ejected for the same fighting incident to give up their playoff privileges.

On Saturday, the Union County supervisor of officials contacted Rogers and said the ejection call had been overturned. Rogers said he was told the officials met after the game to make sure their ejection call was correct.

They determined there was no fighting. Rogers said the three players ejected are on Porter Ridge's defensive team for extra points. Providence Day had just scored a touchdown, meaning those players would be coming on for the extra point try.

The official's report has been sent to the N.C. High School Athletic Association, which will make a final ruling, but it appears that the three players are clear to play in next week's rivalry game with Marvin Ridge -- and that Porter Ridge is clear to play in the postseason if they qualify.

Another Pirate player was ejected for a helmet-to-helmet hit earlier in the game. His ejection stands and the two-way player will sit out next week's game, per state rules.




63 comments:

Anonymous said...

Union County official? Not surprising it was overturned.

Anonymous said...

Is anyone buying this excuse? If this is the case then the officials should be suspended for being incompetent. More realistic is Porter Ridge got away with breaking the rules because of who they are. Had this been most any other school does anyone think for a second it would have been overturned?

Anonymous said...

I'm a Marvin Ridge fan and support the call. Great job by the officials getting the call right! Makes our game next week free of controversy.

Anonymous said...

There is no "Union County Supervisor of Officials". Either way, had this been any other school in the county, minus Monroe, there would be no question that school would face the music. However, UC's darlings will never be punished. We don't even need to mention the spring football season they have over there.

Anonymous said...

There was a supervisor of officals in attendence (who oversees the officals for this region, its not school staff or school board members), a meeting followed the game and reviewed the situation with the offical in the box who witness the entire event along with the regional supervisor of officals. the ruling is correct and the proof is in the video, players from special teams were entering the field after a touchdown was scored, on site officals gave no warning nor attempted to stop incoming players, so to those who were not present get the facts or check out the video tape

Anonymous said...

Unless the extra point was being kicked 5 feet from the Providence Day sideline, they were not rushing the field for the extra point block.

I am glad they are playing. It is a bad rule to punish the entire team, but if you go by the letter of the law, they got away with one.

Anonymous said...

Freedom High had a similar incident in the not so distant past, and it was determined they were NOT eligible to go to the playoffs, even though the other team started the incident. Nice to know some teams can break the rules get away with it while punishing others..

Anonymous said...

"I demand an independent review of this incident and expect the decision to be reversed"

Sincerely,

Whoever is the second best team in 4A this year.

Anonymous said...

Freedom High defensive players were coming on field as punt return players were leaving the field on the change of posession following a punt when incident happened. (Freedom players did not play both ways) Still ruling was upheld and team disqualified. If players step on field as I witnessed on the TV footage, Porter Ridge should be DISQUALIFIED!! Rules were upheld last year regardless of talent and potential that Freedom had and the same has to be true with Porter Ridge.

Anonymous said...

They actually should have this reviewed. Seems to fly in the face of the rules everyone else has to play by.

Also they should be disqualified for only scoring 17 points on a private school with a fraction of the student body has.

Anonymous said...

Any truth to the rumor that Porter Ridge is going to leapfrog to #1 in the Sweet 16 and Providence Day is going to move up to #2?

Anonymous said...

Is PR overrated or is PDS one of the best teams in Charlotte? Glad we have the crack sweet 16 voters to figure it out.

Anonymous said...

Another case of the haves vs the have nots! No way this call would have been changed for Garinger, WC, WM, or any other school without parents of influence! This opens the door for lots of future controversy!!!

Anonymous said...

It's High School Football---for the love of all that's holy! Talk about your first world problems...

Anonymous said...

"Haves vs. Have Nots"? Give me a break. Why do "some people" always have to bring up poor little kids at WM, WC, etc. First of all, it's not relevant to this issue as none of the teams you mentioned were involved. Secondly, I'm sure PR students would appreciate the super small class sizes and the millions of extra dollars pumped into their school and extra services, supplies, and personnel and college scholarship offerings that are available - as WM and WC have. As you make irrelevant arguments, I submit that one for your to put in your pipe and smoke, since you are on an equity kick.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
It is simply a case of the Have and the Have Nots. Union County is so full of crap. PR is the darling of Union County. If not, then someone please explain to me why Monroe, Piedmont, Sun Valley, continue to NOT recieve the same funding for athletic or academic programs that PR does and these schools are all within 10 miles of each other. PR would not be allow to continue if they were one of the other schools named.

Anonymous said...

I was expecting the same outcome as Freedom vs. Chase last year, it was the same situation that happened to Freedom and they were PUNISHED! I guess it's who you are and who you know.

Anonymous said...

You either have money or you don't. PR has got both. Father and son influence and money. And all is well in Pr land.

Anonymous said...

I hear Blair Hardin has done a great job of recruiting Union County, shame they can't "fix" the PE test for him too...........

Anonymous said...

C'mon Pirate haters. What kind of preferential treatment from the county have we gotten? Strong school spirit and support, yes. County darlings, I'm not seeing it.

PR nation said...

the ejections were a understanding the referees were terrible that game and none of the kids should have been ejected.

Anonymous said...

Ok listen up.
There is no preferential treatment for Porter Ridge in Union County. For crying out loud come on over and check out the campus. No Field House (Marvin Ridge has one, Weddington has one, and yes even poor little ol' Piedmont has one!)They have no lights on the baseball field, just ask AC Reynolds about that! The extra funding from the County?? What a joke! What they do have is the best family and community support in the County and possibly the State. Why hate them for that? They also have a system in place where the little darlings begin learing Blair's system in Pop Warner, through middle school and when He finally gets them in 9th grade they know the basics and usually much more. There is no special treatment, special spring seasons, special money, or any other conspiracies going on over there. If you other schools in the County want to compete with the Kings of Hill get off the couch and start working for it. Thats what they do. Nothing more and nothing less.
Now, what happened Friday night should have never happened because PR should have been 30 points ahead of this team by halftime. Blair can't bring himself to pound his father's team into the ground because of profound respect for him and while thats ok its not ok to do that to your kids. He allowed those foul mouthed disrespectful, private school student-atheletes stay in a game that PR could have easily won. By easing up on his Dad, pulling the starting QB after the first series and running 100 off tackle plays just gave the PD the illusion that they could compete with PR. If PR had inserted their normal game plan and stuck to it this game would have been a blow-out. I'm sure all of Pirate Nation is glad that we wont be playing Papa Hardin anymore. Its a no win situation for everyone involved.

Anonymous said...

PR should be embarrassed. All those ejections and then to get away with it. Great lesson for the kids. If you are a football player you can do what ever you want.

Anonymous said...

How exactly would being 30 points ahead have changed that situation? Are you saying that the PR players lost their composure because it was a close game? Makes sense. During adversity your true character is revealed.

Very intelligent. PR must be thrilled you are the defender of their character.

Anonymous said...

A lot of misinformation out there. For one, PR doesn't get any more special funding for anything than the other schools that were mentioned. To even think so shows your ignorance in school budgets and funding. Second, it was hard work that got PR to where they are now. Nothing more, nothing less. When conference re-aligns next year and they are in the SW4A, it will be a whole different ball game when they have to compete with Indy and Butler. And third...yes, PR doesn't have a field house. And neither does Marvin Ridge. Let's get some facts straight before we post, shall we?

Anonymous said...

I love the myth that PR is better because of their "system." Just check out all the starters who played at other schools. Why is the head coach still employed when he can't pass the state exam? Lot of funny stuff going on their.

Anonymous said...

How many starters played at other schools? You need to check your facts as only one played at another school. He went to PR in middle school before his parents got a job where he moved to another school. His family moved back into the district 2 yrs ago to finish high school. PR does not have any other starter that has not played several years for the middle, JV, or varsity.

Anonymous said...

Since he can't pass PE test, is he security or on janitorial staff???

Anonymous said...

Strong misunderstanding of the rules here. There were no punches thrown, and no one was ejected for fighting. You can't eject players for "leaving the bench" during a non-fight.

Freedom was completely different situation. There were punches, there was fighting, and players were ejected for that.

And btw, to suggest that PR are the "haves" of UC is just plain silly.

Anonymous said...

Economic influence, seriously?? Take a look at the average home prices in the PR district. They are closer to those in districts like Independence than they are to Weddington, Marvin, Wesley Chapel, etc. Whoever brought this up has obviously never had the tour of Union county.

Anonymous said...

Why are we arguing about what is the wealthiest, most elite district in Union County. Isn't that kind of arguing about who has the nicest mobile home? A public school with a large contingent of rednecks got into a fight with a nouveau riche private schools who gets into fights at games every year. No big shocker here.

Anonymous said...

So if hardin isnt certified in pe, why is he listed as pe teacher on. Pr website?

Anonymous said...

Seems like a PDS is makimg a season out of proving teams are over rated this year. First it was the over hyped Davidson Day team and now the Porter Ridge juggernaut. These teams need to schedule some competition once in a while.

Anonymous said...

Freedom players were ejected for leaving the bench and stepping onto the field. The same can be said for Porter Ridge players Friday night. Any player to do so must be ejected by rule regardless if they were fighting. If a team has 5 or more players ejected during a season then the entire team is to be disqualified from the playoff's. Porter Ridge should not be eligible for playoff's.

Anonymous said...

Did PD score on defense ? Because if not, I don't any team who does not leave at least 9 defensive starters in for ex.pt blocks !!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

This ruling gives EVERY team in the future to use "these were substitutes" as an excuse. TERRIBLE TERRIBLE decision by the NCHSAA!

Anonymous said...

Yes, PDay did in fact score on defense. It was an 80+ yd fumble return for TD.

There was technically no fight here, (since no one was ejected for fighting). So leaving the bench was not illegal.

For those ignorantly talking about the score, PR scored easily on the first possession, then pretty much took the foot off the gas. PDay offense never got inside PR's 35. Their only score came off a fumble return. And by the way PDay > CDay > Catholic, so yeah they're a pretty decent team. Legal recruiting actually does help.

Anonymous said...

Freedom players were ejected for leaving the bench DURING A FIGHT. In this case there was NO fight by definition, so the situation is quite different.

Anonymous said...

So Hardin is out of time lateral entry wise in Union County, where does he go from here? Will the state of NC waive him having to be licensed? Educators in the state should be interested in how this goes.......

Anonymous said...

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh.... but I don't wanna play Porter Ridge in the playoffs.... Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

Anonymous said...

Folks, you simply cannot eject someone for leaving the bench during a fight without first ejecting someone for fighting.

If you don't like the rule, then lobby NCHSAA to get it changed.

Anonymous said...

You people really need to find something better to do.

Anonymous said...

No proof Providence Day is better than Catholic or Country Day. They played a 3A team and lost. Maybe they are better at fighting than Country Day and Catholic, but they are like 90% rednecks.

Anonymous said...

Country Day plays a bunch of cream puffs. They would not even schedule Catholic if they didn't have to. Can't back out now.

Don't want o get to banged up for conference play. Who have they played sonic the Catholic game? Better move them up the poll.

Anonymous said...

I can see a bunch of posters here were NOT at the game and don't know the facts of what happened. I don't have a dog in the fight but I was at the game. There was no fight. It was a clean game and yes Providence Day does have a good team. Porter Ridge was better on Friday night. Nothing happened the way the observer originally reported it. If you hate PR because they have been winning, then you are just a hater. But stop posting if you weren't even at the game.

Anonymous said...

Lot of folks drinking the haterade on here. I am sure it's all coming from those who haven't been able to beat PR the last 3 years, so their jealousy manifests itself into exaggeration and excuse-making, hoping to tarnish PR's pride and reputation. Good luck with that. While you focus on hating, PR will focus on winning.

Anonymous said...

Let's see here. Country Day made a habit of beating schools like Crest and Northwestern, so area public schools stopped scheduling them. Providence Day has played two public school teams and lost. Victory Christian, Davidson Day and Northeast Prep aren't exactly Murderer's Row. So in essence Providence Day plays one tougher game than Country Day this year, and that's only if you consider South Point (who beat Providence Day by two touchdowns) a tough game.

Anonymous said...

When is the last time Country Day played Crest? Talk about a reach. PDS played the team that will win the 3A championship and the team that will win the 4A championship. Only thing they are missing is 4AA. The question was not if they won, it was who they played. Throw in the 12th ranked team in the state of Virginia and that is a muderers row. Oh by the way, the have East Rutherford who is better than anyone on the CDS scheudle excpet Catholic. So much for objectivity. Take a look at Christian's scheudle. Much toughher than CDS. CDS has basically the same scheudle as Latin, except for Catholic. Congratulations.

If you want to argue that CDS is better than PDS,Christian or Latin go ahead, but the scheudles are not even close.

Anonymous said...

A fight in a game is only a fight if someone gets ejected for fighting? There was clearly an altercation. Porter Ridge players clearly left the bench to participate. They were clearly ejected for it. Seems fairly simple.

Bad rule yes. However Porter Ridge was in violation of it.

Anonymous said...

Other than Catholic, CDS has played the Carolina Pride, NE Prep, Great Falls, Ravenscroft. Why are people even talking about private schools, what a joke. By the way, other than CDS, who has Catholic played? CDS and Catholic could have just been 2 bad teams going at it. How could you tell with those schedules?

Anonymous said...

Like I said, those teams won't schedule Country Day anymore because Country Day tended to win those games. If Providence Day has sustained success of more than two seasons (which would be a first) they might have trouble scheduling games. Well, I guess they'd actually have to win those games. This week Country Day plays Woodberry Forest who is equal to, if not better than Liberty Christian (who is #46, not #12 in Virginia). In the end, it really isn't worth arguing about this because the teams will play in a few weeks. But congratulations on no longer being the laughinstock of Charlotte football. Maybe you can sustain it.

Anonymous said...

By the way, East Rutherford isn't that good. You can say it, but it doesn't make it so. Country Day has by far the much harder game this weekend.

Anonymous said...

Fact. LCA was 12th when PDS played them. Understanding that they dropped after the loss might be beyond some peoples comprehension level. Fact, they are still well in front of Woodberry who is ranked 70th and who lost to LCA.

You can say Woodberry is as good as LCA if you completely disregard the facts.

Not sure why it is so important to pump up CDS schedule. If they cared, they could easily get some better games.

Anonymous said...

First of all, not sure when Woodberry and Liberty Christian played this year. Second of all, I understand you have zero clue about Virginia private school football, but are solely relying on MaxPreps. It's ok, but there is no need to make stuff up. Really, I challenge you to ask anybody who knows anything about Virginia football and ask them if Woodberry is as good as LCA. Hate to tell you this, but most of LCA's state titles are from playing in the lower division private school league, and several of the top private schools in Virginia don't participate in the state tournament because of historical rivalry games and exams.

But listen, if I went to Providence Day, I'd be cocky and bragging too. I mean, you're 4-2 this year, and last year, for seemingly the first time ever, you won more games than you lost. Bravo!

Anonymous said...

I thought you had LCA ranked 46th in Virginia? Surprised such an expert on Viginina football would get their rankings from Max Preps. Impressive.

Anonymous said...

>> 9:02 AM "A fight in a game is only a fight if someone gets ejected for fighting?"

Correct. Fighting is an automatic ejection, so if no one was ejected for fighting there could not have been any fight. Period. It's pretty simple logic.

Since there was no fight, the bench rule was not in force. Call it a technicality if you will, but that's the state's interpretation of the rule.

Anonymous said...

Wow! Don't question the CDS schedule. I don't even need to see it to know it is lame. Come over the Mallard Creek. If Crest won't scheudle you. We will!

Anonymous said...

they have tutors for the pe test if u need help

Anonymous said...

Whatever. I knew what you were quoting and I was just telling you that by still calling them the 12th ranked team was inaccurate. Kind of like when you said they beat a team this year who isn't even on their schedule.

Anonymous said...

Lol. Does this look like these two teams are really as close as the score?

http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/porter-ridge-pirates-%28indian-trail,nc%29/football/hudl.htm

Anonymous said...

Hopefully CDS weak schedule will not hurt them come playoff time like last year.

Buck Dharma said...

To all of those sore sports, whiners, and complainers, who can't take the fsct that the referees screwed up...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

You're simply a bunch of losers who know that Porter Ridge is the BEST team in Charlotte, if not all of North Carolina. You simply can't handle the truth. The Pirates win...AGAIN! The rest of you are just pathetic! The Pirates of Porter Ridge are the superior to slouches and always will be.

Need a tissue? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Tim Winters said...

UnioNCounty Football learned today that the 3 Porter Ridge players were not ejected for fighting in the Providence Day game but were ejected for leaving the bench. The NCHSAA confirmed this with me today. A letter was sent to Porter Ridge HS administration informing the school of the decision/clarification of the decision.

Those 3 players will not play vs Marvin Ridge on Friday. They will be eligible to play the following week. Porter Ridge remains eligible for the playoffs as the threshold is 6 players 4 non-fighting ejections. https://www.facebook.com/UnionCountyNCFootball