Friday, November 9, 2007

Disappointment at South Meck

You had to feel for South Meck and its fans Friday. Hours before the first round playoff game in 13 years Friday, the Sabres found out they'd have to forfeit all 11 games and their playoff chances because of an ineligible player.

South had generated some real excitement within the school community. Placed in the small 4A playoffs, the Sabres had a big tough team that was equipped to go deep into the postseason. I really thought the Sabres had a great chance to reach their first N.C. championship in 25 years.

I'm not sure what happened. If I'd guess, I'd say it was an address issue. I also feel bad for AD Mike Jones, who is responsible for checking eligiblity. By all accounts, Jones is a good man. I had five Sabres parents and officials call me and express their concern about Jones and say how much they cared about him. "I'd trust him with my wife alone in a room," one Sabres official told me.

South will be really good next year, but not as good as this season. You have to feel for these kids who thought they had a real chance to do something special.

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Langston Wertz Jr.
lwertz@charlotteobserver.com

147 comments:

Anonymous said...

O yea Langston this is terrible i feel sorry for those guys i really do.I dont think its fair for the kids to have to forfeit the entire season its just really unfortunate and im a Butler fan but South has a great team.This rule needs to be looked into.

The McCalls said...

It is so unfortunate a technical mistake was made by the Administration. The Administration, the Team, the Parents,are all in our prayers. It is so unfair that so many kids have to suffer from this mistake. South Meck may be disqualified, but they are still winners in our book. South Meck has come a long way. Coach Martin and staff have helped these kids to become winners, regardless of the outcome. They are winners because they have learned they can play hard. They are winners because they have built a team and have a deep special spirit. The students and parents of South Meck are winners, as well, becuase they have finally after many years of defeat, found a special spirit the school has not had for a long time. They found faith in growing up and they found out how strong they could stand-up for each other. We are so sorry for the Seniors. You will go through life with the unpleasant memory, but you will always remember you worked your hearts out every week and you learned that every step you made became stronger and stronger. This type of determination will take you well into the future. You have all built character.Hold your heads up. You can do this again.

Anonymous said...

As I understand it, South Meck self-reported the situation.

They are upholding the rules, even when it hurts. They are showing AMAZING integrity. I have seen them play their hearts out, EVERY ONE OF THEM.

I am as proud as I can be of each of them, of their coaches, the Administration, and particularly Dr Furr for communicating so quickly with the households.

South Meck continues to strive for excellence and integrity ! Now, THAT'S a lesson worth teaching.

Anonymous said...

Technical mistake my butt--it's the kids 4th high school in 3 years and nobody checks his address!!! Began at Weddington, left for Christian, left for Hoggard, and ended up at South Meck-that's a family who moves alot or lies alot!!! This is South's fault and created by their stupidity.

Anonymous said...

Well well, what goes around comes around. Too bad someone didn't dig a bit more with all the crap Coach Martin pulls. Sorry for the boys but if you play with fire, ya gonna get burned.

Anonymous said...

The player was Qb Jey Yokeley

Anonymous said...

Agree w/ the last two comments. Perfect example of what is wrong in local high school sports--if my kid can't start--we'll find another school. Left Weddington because he was behind Sunseri, left Christian because he would have been behind Bard, tried Hoggard and ran into Miley, came back to Weddington, but would have been behind Boone, went to South where there was no QB. Fault lies with the family, the coaches, the AD, and the administration--you'd think 4-5 transfers in 3 years would have turned on the light!

Anonymous said...

People stuff like this happens in the corporate world all the time. Deal with it. You will be better prepared next time with better due diligence.

If you think this is bad visit a classroom and see how poorly they are run.

Anonymous said...

Let's be honest here. This was a bureaucratic snafu of cataclysmic proportions. You have an over zealous reporter, trying to make a name for himself and investigating anything to try to be the next Woodward and Bernstein. (Hint) Mr. Reporter – no Pulitzer Prize is forthcoming. You have a bureaucracy at CMS that can’t or won’t establish some sort of guidelines that a reasonable person can follow nor can be applied to all schools and students equally. Come on people, this is CMS operating in the murky gray area where no one will take responsibility for their ineptitude. I’m not naming names – (V H AD CMS), but if I were, it wouldn’t be some poor AD at a school trying to follow purposely ambiguous guidelines. And lastly, a finger needs to be pointed squarely at the NCHSAA the “governing” body of all things sports related in North Carolina High Schools. Come down out of your imaginary ivory tower, get down here with the common folks and try to regain some of the warm heart you seemed to have lost. You surround yourself with your good ol’ boy (or gal) network and look down your pompous noses at the rest of us like some ruling potentate from the dark ages making and enforcing arbitrary rules and rulings. You could have had the decency to have heard an actual appeal from the actual parties involved. No, you make your rulings with your cold, dead hearts and point your thumbs down so the lion will be released to eat the next victim.
In closing, see if any of you, the shameless reporter, any bureaucrat at CMS, The Wizards of Oz behind the NCHSAA curtain, will take a moment to try and remember why you got into your particular business in the first place. It could not have been to leave a bunch of kid’s heart broken, simply because you denied them a chance to play a game for fun, for each other, for their school, for their fans, and for a memory of a life time.

Anonymous said...

Hey Weddington...

one word - SCOREBOARD

Sabres 40 - Weddington 13.

And next year - just make sure you have triple digits for the the visitors side of the scoreboard.

Anonymous said...

Can't believe someone's blaming the reporter, NCHSAA, and CMS--look directly at South Meck. Before this kid even sniffed the field in July they should have ran straight to CMS and NCHSAA for a ruling. Who could have been so blind at South Meck? If I were the South Meck principal (and I'm a retired one) I'd be looking for a new AD and football coach on Monday morning.

Anonymous said...

As an ex-sabre who left South Meck on bad terms, and a bad taste in my mouth about the program, I really do feel sorry for the senior class.. Guys such as Colton, David, Matt Jones, nd Matt Hoehn who worked their butts of are forced to lose their eason which they worked so hard for. What ever the ruling is I;m proud of my ex-teamates......good luck in the future.

Anonymous said...

For the idiot calling out Weddington, first--I'm a South parent, not a Weddington supporter, second, they beat us every year we were legal--so let's shut up and take our humiliation with dignity.

Anonymous said...

Typical CMS Principal, blame everyone below you. Figures you are a ex principal... because you lack the principals of a stand up person trying to figure out what exactly happen here. All the due diligence was done and CMS passed the kid as good to go. So Madam Principal go look up clue in the dictionary and get one.

Anonymous said...

I know someone that is very close to the registration of students throughout CMS. According to them, the majority of schools within CMS most likely have players attending schools were they do not belong. Perhaps the reporter should look into this at other schools. Where there is smoke there usually is fire. This is not an infraction only limited to South Meck.....

Anonymous said...

Who's the overzealous reporter everyone is talking about? I agree with one of the posts that this is not a problem at South Meck only--it's rampant throughout CMS. Here's the problem--how do you police it and how do you fix it?

Anonymous said...

Honestly, what does this reporter have against South. Every time their game is in the pick-ems he picks against them, and now he pulls this one. If you're going to go after the little guys you have to go after the big guys also. I almost don't even need to mention Independence and how one of the most prominent players from their run lived in the South district actually lived down the street from South's current running back. And those who do not know all of what happened and are judging Jey, his family and school officials need to learn the facts before they say anything.

Anonymous said...

I'll out the reporter wantabe - The stalking unprincipaled character is Ryan Basen. OK 15 minutes of fame is over now go crawl back under the depths of the murky swamp from whence you came. And shave your back.

Anonymous said...

I am a Weddington parent and not a South supporter... We were humiliated this year and I do not see us digging out of it with the current regime. Unfortunately for us, we lost many of our future players because of the openings of new schools. Having to split players with another school is not fair, but it is what it is. I hope that the rumors of Weddington's involvement in this case is not founded, because that would be very embarassing and as they say: what comes around goes around.

Anonymous said...

I feel so sorry for all of those young men who sweated during the hot summer busting their butts for their team only to have it jerked out of their hands by the very adults who are supposed to be on top of things. I have a son who is a senior this year playing football and I know how hard these guys work. Heads up legal South Meck players you had a good season and you represented yourselves well.

Anonymous said...

There is really no excuse for this. A policy needs to be in place that will certify eligibiliy in the first couple weeks of the season. It's a shame for South Meck players. It is also a shame that some other team was kept out.

If they self-reported, I can respect that. You can bet the Big I wouldn't do it.

Anonymous said...

I have read all the comments left by the numerous people regarding the South Meck debacle. Is anybody going to realize that the rule is quite simple: "you go to school where you live". Lets discuss fact and keep emotions in check. Jey Yokely has attended 5 schools in less than 4 years. Weddington,Hoggard,Weddington,Christian,South Meck. Now I guess it is back to Weddington? Where is the logic. Is this family looking for the Holy Grail? The blame that some place on Ryan Basen is totally ridiculous. He reports news and this unfortunate event is newsworthy. This eleigibility rule is quite simple and logical. It was broken and the punishment handed out. Without emotion and bias, justice was served.

butler parent said...

This is not the schools fault. Or the NCHSAAs fault.

It's solely the fault of the parents or guardians of the player in question.

It is their responsibility to do what's right and follow the rules on behalf of their children. Schools are in the business of teaching kids, not determining football eligibility, and I'd rather not see my tax money wasted on eligibility investigations for the fotball team. The adults in charge of this young man simply failed in their duties as parents and guides, but their selfishness and greed not only embarrassed their own son, but an entire school full of kids, of which the vast majority are no doubt hard working and honest.

This should serve as a great object lesson to all our kids that doing the right thing, in the long run, is the best way to reach your goals.

Anonymous said...

To the reader who wants a new policy to ensure that eligibily is certified. There is a rule or law in place. It is quite simple, you go to school and play in a district where you live. Why in God's name do we need an additional policy. FOLLOW THE RULE AS STATED,PERIOD. NOW EVERYONE QUIT WHINING.

Anonymous said...

Ok, just for the record. The family had extenuating circumstances (see Sabre’s Rally around QB’s Mom - Charlotte Observer September 27, 2007) that necessitated a move for the son with his Grandparent’s while his father worked his business in Wilmington and his mother dealt with a life threatening disease. Everything that was asked of them by CMS (downtown) to get him eligible for enrollment at South Meck was done. So you will not see him at Weddington this year or next. He will graduate with his friends and classmates at South Meck. The school and friends will unabashedly rally around this young man for the second time this year. The parents were also told by CMS (downtown) officials that he was eligible to play football. So, that was supposed to be that. Everyone at South, the parents, the player did things above board, upfront and with the blessings of CMS enrollment officials. The problem was with the interpretation of what NCHSAA and CMS thought were eligibility requirements to play football. Who exactly does someone turn to as a communication liaison between CMS and the NCHSAA about legitimate participation? I am willing to bet that there is not one school in Mecklenburg County or Union for that fact that does not have a player in some sport that does not meet the criteria stated by the NCHSAA simply because you are dealing with so many schools in a small geographical area. Schools that open on top of other schools, district lines drawn and redrawn, and the bane of the entire sports eligibility system “Magnet Schools”, all of these things are not necessarily the fault of individuals or their schools. The real story isn’t that some player went to a different school, because of the aforementioned reasons, did everything above board and upfront according to the guidelines, procedures, and blessings of the policy makers downtown. The real story is that the policies and guidelines in place are confusing and do not apply across the board.

So here we sit. November 10, 2007. One shameless reporter trying his best to get his name out there in Gotcha Journalism, pushing the information forward at the eleventh hour instead of doing the real story. A CMS system that is close to collapse under the weight of its own bureaucracy. The NCHSAA without a legitimate appeal process that includes the direct parties involved. A family that is already dealing with enough stress in their lives, and a team of players whose hopes were crushed and dreams unrealized, not because of play on the field, but because they were swept up in some bureaucratic snafu. Now, we will have people of various states of information chime in on this forum. From the ignorant, to the well informed, to the misinformed spewing their two cents worth of bloviation and by the time you are sleeping your 2007 Thanksgiving turkey dinner off, this entire sad episode will be whitewashed and swept under the rug. Lying in wait there for the next time, someone in some office, in some school district, makes a mistake that affects the sons and daughters of someone’s sons and daughters

Dan said...

The feel good story of the high school football season is turned into a travesty because NCHSAA exalts form over substance. Based on what I have read about the situation that lead to the ineligible player there is no way that should have happened. So a kid lived with his grandparents while his mother was being treated for breast cancer. Bureacracy rules.

Anonymous said...

correct me if im wrong...but if they investigated independence, wouldnt they have to forfeit the last 7 years?

Anonymous said...

The best reference made out of all 27 posts was the one calling out Independence. If CMS thinks that Indy has has 7 straight years of star-studded kids growing up in the 28227, you are delusional and on crack. That NY Yankee All-Star run zip code needs it's own internal & external investigation. Year after year, replacement studs allegedly "move into" the 28227, gimme a break! Tommy Knotts is the George Steinbrenner of Mint Hill and he has everyone believing it's him who leads them to State Championships year-after-year. Don't even get me started about the whole DA & CMS's handling of his assault case. If it were anyone else in CMS, or you for that matter at your job, your azz would be fired so quick, your head would be spinning. We need a whole investigation into all of this CMS "eligibility" BS. Amazing what people will do to have winning teams.

Anonymous said...

To the the eloquent and long winded writer, the unfortunate circumstances of Mrs. Yokely was a trajedy and one where a family pulled together for the battle. I give them all the empathy in the world. But the incessant transfers over the past 4 years and the 3(Weddington to Hoggard to Weddington to Christian) prior to the family's personal tragedy were based on being a starting QB. The previous writers were correct in their statements that other QB's, some at or will be Division 1 QB's(Miley and Sunseri) stood in the young Yokely's way to stardom. So began the saga. I have a son who is a high school athelete and we all hope for the best for our children but they also have to learn that in life you must persevere. You cannot keep hopping around to find Nirvana in work or marriage. You must work at it and sometimes with disappointments and set-backs. Regarding where to place the blame, don't look at the bueracracy of CMS. The NCHSAA should have been contacted directly by the school athletic director. Based on the track record of Yokeley's transfer record, this is a case where direct contact in the summer would have been prudent.

One more thing, his transcript for admittance to college will be quite the document. When admissions personnel look at this document, I hope for Yokely's sake they don't overlook him because of his adventurous high school path. There is alot to be said for sticktoitiveness. That will be the overall trajedy, of this unique adventure, based on one item: being a starting high school QB.

Anonymous said...

To the writer responding to the long winded writer. Yeah, makes sense for a QB needing to find a football home where he can showcase his football talents. Especially in a offense that features about 95% running. Great showcase for a QB. You are such a wise person a real Knute Rockne of the internet. (Tongue planted firmly in cheek)

Anonymous said...

OK so since we are almost a full week from next Friday, lets check the rosters at Independence, Butler, and every other HS in the area with a winning record. Im sure you will see address questions at each school. If Independence had to take players from the immediate area around the school, I'm sure the win-loss record would be different. Seems that this year there seem to be more anal people running High School sports. Started out this year with the suspension of a player who pointed to the air after a touchdown, now this. We certainly have a bunch of soft hearted wimps running things. By the way, did this ineligble player from South Meck play all those football games by himself? Or did the rest of the team get on the field? I don't see honestly where he made a difference, and what difference an address made. Some parent probably started this whole mess because their child wa scut from the team and wanted to create trouble.

Tommy K. said...

F'ing cheaters. They should all be kicked out of school.

Anonymous said...

Okay, let's keep justifying the transferitis. Forget the South Meck running game concept. Being a starting QB was the quest not the type of offense they ran. South Meck was an opportunity and he had family who lived there. Anybody with any sense will look at this track record of transfers and see a fundamental problem. Get your tongue out of your cheek and open your eyes.

Anonymous said...

Yea seriously, it's a great showcase for a quarterback to go 5 for 6 in the most pass-happy game of the year.

Anonymous said...

If he was really so concerned about being the starting quarterback then why did both he and Sunseri leave Weddington at the same time, and since you can see the future that Bard would have taken over for him at Christian then tell me Nostradamus, will Independence and Butler ever get caught having players that went to Quail Hollow Middle School and that live down the street from South Meck?

Caroline M said...

This is the most unfortunate thing that has happened in the history of South Mecklenburg. Not only did this reporter crush and ruin the dreams of every South Meck player, fan and commuity member, he destroyed the spirit that makes South Meck what it is known for. The reporter responsible for this tragedy is a disgrace not only to the Charlotte Observer, but to the Queen City itself. He should be fired immediately and never be able to voice his opinion again. America was built on the foundation of being able to voice your opinions but not at the risk of ruining others lives. Although the Sabres are not only a school, but a family, it is hard to move on from such a scarring event. What happened was not fair, and needs to be dealt with in a timely manner. Without the 2007 South Mecklenburg Varsity football team, the entire region of South Charlotte would not have gotten together. I have never seen so many fans with so much love, passion and school spirit as I have this year. It is my senior year in high school and the school has finally come together for one reason, to support our football players.

And for everyone who knows nothing about Jey Yokeley and feels the need to tarnish his name publicly needs to take a look at themselves. Jey is one of the best players that South Meck has had in many years. He is an athletic team player who has done nothing but give up everything, to be with his friends. He did not switch schools because he wasn't getting playing time, he left because he wanted to finish out his high school years with the people he loves the most. It's unfair and wrong for people to judge him on the basis of what they learn from the news because obviously the news knows nothing about the true situation

Also, Coach Martin has been the father that these boys have never had. In the past year and a half that he has been at South Meck, it has been a complete 360 turn around for everyone. He has aided in bringing the team, school and community together. Without his lovable personality and passion for football being more than a sport, we wouldnt be where we are now. He has been an amazing asset and anyone who disagrees deserves to never be able to speak of football again because he is the most amazing coach in our history.

South Mecklenburg High School will continue to have the Sabre Pride in which we are known for, and will not let this issue go to rest. It has been an unfair action taken by people who do not understand the consequences of their actions. This may have deleated our records on paper, but in the hearts of every Sabre player, family member, friend, fan and community person this is just a stone in which a Sabre can easily overcome.

Anonymous said...

Knute or in your case mind of a Newt (look it up) My eyes are open and you need to join the circus. Because I can see you typing with your head up where the sun doesn't shine.

Anonymous said...

I think the Independence school district has a couple more zip codes than 28227. I am sure that 28212 and 28215 or parts of them fall into the Indy district which appears to have been drawn to give the school a "racial balance".

I think that every major county in the state (Cumberland, Wake, Durham, New Hanover, Gaston, Cabarrus, Union, Meck et al) have a logistical nightmare on their hands when it comes to atheltic eligibilty and residences. I doubt that any school from those counties is absolutely 100% legal.

I feel for the family and the school. As much as I want to support the Yokeley's I cannot understand the numerous schools.

Some type of clearinghouse must be setup from the NCHSAA down. They establish the rules.

Ryan Basden broke another story regarding Parkwood, MArvin Ridge, the new district lines, and a student with a parent living in each district.

Was Basden writing an article on this?

Anonymous said...

Why is everyone acting like this is the first time something like this has ever happened? It happens all the time in Charlotte. We all know kids who live in our neighborhoods who do not go their assigned school, but to the school of their choice to play sports. It may not be football--but why don't we check the records of the golf teams or the baseball teams or the cheerleading squads??? Some of these families feel they are so above getting caught they do not even attempt to hide the fact that their child does not attend the right school (and hasn't for two years)!!!!! Maybe you should check other schools, too, and not just the big I but look at Providence.

south meck sabre said...

As a student at South Meck, I would say this is the most tragic thing that has happened in a long time to my school. This team has brought together coaches, students, administrators, and the community to do something that has not been done in quite awhile. It has been years since the stands have been filled completely, since the fence has been filled with flags of numerous companies that support South Meck Football, since we have been KNOWN for our school spirit. Even at away games we were THERE..we were cheering just as loudly as the other side-our stands were full even then of students and supporters. I cannot believe that Ryan Basen would maliciously tear all of this down. For him to write that we were going to beat Cabarrus this week KNOWING that at about 4:00 on November 9 he was going to make EVERYTHING get swept away for us must have taken guts. I wish he could have been in that stadium last night to witness the pain and heartache that he caused. The parents, the team, the coaches, and the students were all there silent and crying... you could have heard a pin drop in that huge place. I have never seen so many boys cry.. and its not like these were just any boys. These are my BEST FRIENDS...all of us felt each others pain worse than ever before. It drove some of us to become physically sick.. I hope Ryan Basen got some kind of sick satisfaction out of all this because he is the ONLY one that did...minus a few of you who have posted on here talking bad. None of you have the right to say ANYTHING about Jey Yokeley or his family because none of you know the real story. Jey is one of the most amazing things that has happened to South Meck in a really long time..he is the reason the team formed such a strong bond with each other and with the school. Along with the arrival of Coach Martin and then Jey came something truly amazing, and although Ryan Basen thinks he can tear it all apart by some stupid news story, he's got another thing coming. You might can shoot at us but you CANNOT kill us.. we have proven that we are stronger than that, and we will continue proving it by overcoming this obstacle. We will never stop supporting ANY of our boys, and we will NEVER stop supporting Jey and his family. Better luck next time Basen.

Anonymous said...

It may not make much of a difference since no one really subscribes to the Observer anymore, but why doesn't everyone who has a problem with this writer cancel their subscription to the paper. You can read all of the same articles for free online, and you can always use free copies of Creative Loafing to line that litter box or bird cage. It's a lot more effective than taking personal shots at the guy. If you really have a problem with his reporting, make a statement to the paper that employs him.

Anonymous said...

Let's see, so far the South Meck supporters have blamed the CMS AD, the CMS bureaucracy, Weddington, the reporter, Independence, Providence, and the NCHSAA. Are you sure the mascot had nothing to do with it? How about blaming your school and the kid's parents? To the football genius--it doesn't matter what offense South Meck runs--the parents wanted their kid to be a starting QB and South Meck provided the best opportunity in the area. Where else would he have started in South Charlotte or Union County? Now what does the kid do? He still has to find a school he can legally attend. I feel bad for the other South Meck players, but I also feel bad for the team that got cheated out of a playoff spot that they stole. Good luck to the young man, and as someone else said, he has a whole lot of explaining to do when some college opens his transcript.

same south meck sabre from above said...

Some people are so ignorant. The school's mascot? What does HE have to do with ANYTHING?? Also there is NO reason to blame "the kid" (who, by the way, is named Jey) and his parents because they have papers. They did absolutely nothing wrong they got every possible legal document signed-there is no reason for any blame to be placed on them. And just so everyone knows, statements HAVE been made to the paper that employs him, not only on this blog. Know the facts before you post on this please.

Anonymous said...

Ok Lets be honest - it is a well know fact that high school coaches recruit players from neighboring school "boundaries". Households are moved, players live with grandparents, or other relatives to get into the needed zip code area. Independence, Butler, Providence and other high schools with season after season of winning records do it constantly. If you are going to single out South Meck - go after the others as well .. or maybe we change the rules so we can bring more equal competion back into the scheme. Independence and Butler would not have winning records - year after year if they were following the recruiting rules. The elephant in the room is the high school recruiting continues on and on - just like the battery bunny. If South Meck has to forfit their season - so should Butler and Independence.

Anonymous said...

Great idea, subscription cancelled. Now I don't have to read the tripe the so called reporter writes nor do have to read about The Carolina Panthers. I will miss the crossword puzzle and coupons however. These are the sacrifices one makes.

Anonymous said...

Will someone without personal feelings in this situation explain how this issue came to light? Did South Meck first report the violation or was it first reported in the paper? From what I read it was self-reported by South Meck....but was it 'self-reported' before or after the reporter was involved?

Many of you are ripping the reporters (I do not have a connection with the Observer...none at all). But reporters are paid to report and investigate, and sometimes the news they report is not pleasant. People are hurt, lives are chaged. Before attacking me I do not know the timeline or circumstances in reporting this matter. But reporters report.

Many of you also point fingers at other schools and programs. I am not saying illegal activities go on. I am also not saying every program is clean. Posters mention....everyone knows someone that lives down the street yet goes to another school. If you knew someone was breaking a rule or law would you not report them? I sure would. And if you know without a doubt you can identify an illegal player report it to CMS.

Unfortunatley this violation might have surfaced eventually. Be it yesterday, next week or the week before the state champiomship. The further South Meck advanced the more press coverage and more eyes looking your way. Please note I am only considering it a violation since South Meck self-reported.

Hold your heads high South Meck.

Anonymous said...

Unreal. Knotts can recruit from all over the city. Case in point, the running back he recruited from West Charlotte and the Leak boys if anyone remembers that fiasco. Apparently the Big "I" is recruiting from out-of-state since Knotts beef was with a parent from Pennsylvania. Here's hoping loser who published this story has the cojones to go after a cheating piece of garbage like Knotts. He probably won't. I wouldn't be surprised if Knotts did feed him this to take the eyes of him.

Here's hoping the classless Knotts and the cheaters and losers at Independence get exposed and have to forfeit everything they cheated to win.

Anonymous said...

- If you know of another team that cheats, report it and prove it. Otherwise stop making empty accusations because you heard "inside" info from a coach's brother's girlfriend's mailman's former roommate.

- Don't blame a reporter for doing his job. Blame the South coaching staff for not doing theirs.

- This is not the "worst" thing that has ever happened to Charlotte football. In fact, I'd bet that more years than not, some team in the area has to forfeit games. Too bad it happened to a playoff team this year.

- Bottom line: the rules are the rules, both on the field and off. If you get flagged, don't blame the ref.

Anonymous said...

I wish the South Meck whinner quit! They got caugt cheating and sad to say but, the kids have to pay the price. But please have some dignity. To blame CMS, the reporter and try to drag in other schools into a mess you created is lowere thn low. The question is, did this kid live in your district. Everyone knew he didn't before the news broke. The school, the Coach and the AD. You gambled, you got caught.... Suck it up and deal with it! This has nothing to do with any other coach or any other school! Have some class.

Anonymous said...

Ardrey Kell is chiming in now? Is that the same Ardrey Kell that lost to South Meck last year 61-0 and this year 41-19, both at South Meck's second home field Ardrey Kell's Turf. Let's see, even a AK grad can do the math (oh that's right no grads) 102-19. Great record AK. Great record this year as well. The combined record of your opponents that you beat in the regular season was 23wins - 54 losses. Congrats AK your opponents winning percentage is just a few points higher than the Washington Generals (and they play the Harlem Globetrotters). Your seniors will get to take the 102-19 two year combined score against South Meck right up to the graduation podium when they collect their G.E.D.s.

Anonymous said...

Have some class? Better get to class and learn how to spell son.

Anonymous said...

To the AK supporter that does not belong in this conversation: Sorry that South beat you, and I know that you will say we did it by cheating but get over yourself and realize that we probably passed the ball 3 times that game. Also, I'm pretty sure I know who you are and know that you have a personal issue with South but if you are who I think you are, you brought it upon yourself by your comments like this one. Speaking of class, how about you show some by not accusing South of playing dirty or cheating when you, like almost everybody else, knows little to nothing about the situation.
To the person saying South is "whining":
You also obviously know little to nothing about the situation. If you did, you would know that the CMS official is at least partly at fault. Also, nobody is blaming the reporter, they are just trying to figure out why he would follow a student around from South to create this, and nobody has ever done anything like this to schools like Independence and Butler. Everybody just wants it to be fair across the board.

Anonymous said...

I'm an AK Fan, and I just wanted to apologize for whomever the other AK fan was, because what they said was very unclassy. Our school does not need to be represented by nasty comments like that.

It is an unfortunate thing that this had to happen. I don't know the whole story, because not everything is clear. Sure, it's a terrible thing to have an ineligible player on the roster. But it's also a terrible thing that these guys at south worked so hard, and have it all ripped away. It would be terrible no matter who it was - Indy, Providence, some school in Texas, California, Illinois for all I know/care. It's a sad situation, end of story.

To the anonymous talking about the AK vs South games, as well as "AK G.E.Ds," you should probably grow up and find some class as well. There's no reason to bring school grades, smarts, or graduation into this conversation at ALL. It has nothing to do with this situation.

Anonymous said...

I feel for the South Meck family! I was pulling for them and expected them to make it to the state 4A title game. I do not feel they attempted to circumvent the rules. My opinion is the regulations are confusing and that communication was not up to speed. CMS and the NCHSAA must get things uniformed!

As for Indy and the West Charlotte running back you need to ask his former coach if he thinks he was "recruited". Pete Gilchrist will tell you no. Chisholm had planned to go to Victory Christian at one time and had looked at other privates and publics.

The poster shows his lack of knowledge by associating Knotts and the Leaks. Remember CJ Leak led the Indy team against Knotts and WC for city supremacy from 1996-1998. Knotts would not arrive at Indy until Chris Leak was a sophmore and CJ was two years out of high school. When you accuse someone and attempt to support the accusation with info that undermines your case you lose any credibility.

Anonymous said...

Yeah man, South Meck cheated man and you can't do that. People need to really leave Independence aloon on this one man. Independence runs a class program over there man, no matters what zip codes and adresses people are having man. Just because South Meck cheated man, don't try to be giving flack to Independence man. That is just some terrible acts by all you "fans" and "parents" man. Seriously, Independence does not cheat or they wouldn't have lost any games this year man. But they probably won't lose again this year, especially if they beat Butler man. Knotts is the man, man.

Anonymous said...

A few questions and comments on this forfeit at South Meck:
1. When and what did Basen report? Please copy the article on the blog for all to read.
2. Why does every blog contain allegations or referances to Indy,Butler and Tom Knotts? Stop the witch hunt, these are pretty good football programs. Regardless of the personality of coaches or fans.
3. How can anyone possibly justify 4 schools in less than four years? (5 if you count the second Weddington stint in the spring of 2006)
4. The absolute idiocy of bloggers justifying this action based on what type of offense a school runs. To overlook this track record of transfers because South Meck runs the ball is idiotic.
5. Sunseri left Weddington in search of a better opportunity to shine in the National spotlight. With his fathers connections he went to Pittsburgh Central Catholic. He succeeded and will be going to Louisville next year to play QB.
6. This raises the next question: Why didn't Yokely stay at Weddington and battle for the QB job with Anthony Boone?(an 8th grader at the time)
6. I agree with the one comment regarding the college admissions people and the very thick transcript of Jey Yokely. I hope this does not hurt his college entrance opportunities in the future. From the positive comments in this blog he appears to be a decent kid and God only knows he doesn't need anymore issues.

One bit of advice from one who has hired, in excess, of 100 college degreed people: If you have 5 jobs in 4 years don't expect to get an interview yet alone a job. No company or manager, with any clue, will hire you!

Anonymous said...

If TK has done what you fools allege and still won 7 state champs with one on the way and you fools knew about this and said nothing, Highly unlikly. If the reporter that followed around an OK QB such as yours, do you not think that he has not done the same at the Big I or Buttler? I know for a fact that TK does not recruit. With a successful program, the best will want to follow. I can say for a fact that TK ensures that his guys do in FACT live in star studded 28227. There is no question about it. I also know for a fact that your Coach knew your QB did not belong at South. You did not hear HIM deny that did you? You cheated, you got caugt. Deal with it. This is not about any other program but South's. This is not AK, Indy or Butler's problem. Deal with your own mess. If you don't live in the zone, you can't play for the school. Period. Now shut up and deal with it.

Anonymous said...

To South Meck Player - Great post. Now that your season is over, maybe you will consider writting. Let's see...How about this one? Why do we lie & cheat then blame others when we get caught... I'd read it. How about the year we beat AK by cheat our A's off? No I got it, Feel sorry for us while we robbed other teams of thier rightful playoff spots.

Anonymous said...

the issue is not that Yokeley didn't live in South Meck's district. His family legally to him over to his grandparents who live in the in South Meck zone. Nobody knows the reason why he is ineligible, we are still waiting for the facts.

Anonymous said...

As a Weddington supporter, it seemed completely ridiculous to me that Yokeley left with Sunseri after their sophomore year. Yokeley could have easily started the next season as a Junior under Coach Susi's heavy run Option offense. In fact, if I recall correctly, when Sunseri sat for a game in the 2005 season, Yokeley stepped in as a sophomore and won a game in overtime with a game winning TD pass to now senior tailback Stephen Efird. Its funny how irony can practically write itself because that overtime win was over SOUTH MECK and eventually sent Weddington into the playoffs and kept South out. The starting job was his for the taking the following year, but instead he left to hand the job over to rising freshman Anthony Boone. Just some insight into the initial move...

Anonymous said...

Okay, first of all, everyone saying to "get some class," tell that to the reporter who has been stalking Jey. He has probably known about his so called "ineligibility" before the minute the South boys got on the bus to go to the game. He needs to get some class, and not tell on Jey and break the hearts of all the South Meck players, parents, students, and supporters.
Also, Jey's mom is suffering from breast cancer, that is why he was living with his Grandparents while his parents were in the process of moving. They thought they had filled out all the paperwork, Mr. Yokeley had even shown all the papers on the news..so it's not the Yokeley's fault that they didn't know they hadn't filled out the remaining papers, it was CMS's.

And in response to everyone saying South Meck has cheated..where are you getting that from? South Meck has played hard all season long, and don't get mad AK because they beat you both years.

And if South Meck got called out for its ineligible player, then why isn't Independence? We all know that all their football players don't live in the zip code.

Anonymous said...

i feel for the students and everyone else involved with the 07-08 sabers but for all of you saying that independence cheats, they have previosly been looked into and everything checked out correctly. All these schools have been checked out and especially indepepndence who have taken more criticism than any other school but so far no evidence has been found on them unlike south meck. Its just an unfortunate situation that was addressed correctly and even though South again will be in the books as a losing team evryone in cms will still know about the true outcome of the season.

Anonymous said...

i hope jey doesnt feel like crap.

Anonymous said...

I feel terrible for all of the guys who made football something great again at south meck. as a south alum, i was one of the few at almost every football game and it really sucks to have a football team wit a 0 & whatever record. The boys this year busted their butts and I don't know if everyone is aware but HOGGARD ISN'T IN CHARLOTTE so stop putting that into ur equations with the illegal player's moves. If he wanted to be recruited to be a star player, why would he go to south? give the kid some credit because i'm sure if he wanted to go to a decent school for football, it would NOT have been south. And for every school not counting the loss to south as a legit one get over yourself. every kid on that field played hard to beat all of the teams that they did. not just one. anyways, i think the rule needs to be amended because as someone who played against transfer students, it really sucks to have to sit out a year just to play a sport that you love again.

Anonymous said...

and...i think it is ridiculous to say that dr furr should be looking for a new ad & football coach.

look at the past athletic program at south...i think we have a pretty good one considering dave collins was our last ad.

Anonymous said...

As a South Meck Student I would just like to say thanks to all the guys on the football team. You did a great job this season and this is the first year in many that we could really get excited about the football program. Jey is a great guy and we would not go to the playoffs without him. To all the guys on the Sabre football team, know that the sabre nation stands behind you and we all know that you deserve a standing ovation. Hats off to you guys!

SABRE PRIDE!

Anonymous said...

To the AK Student that posted this:

November 10, 2007 8:19 PM
Anonymous said...
I wish the South Meck whinner(sp) quit(sentence frag)! They got caugt(sp) cheating and sad to say (poor grammar),(incorrect punctuation) but the kids have to pay the price.(grammar) But please have some dignity. To blame CMS, the reporter and try to drag in other schools into a mess you created is lowere thn low.(incomplete sentence) The question is,(punctuation) did this kid live in your district. Everyone knew he didn't before the news broke. The school, the Coach and the AD..(incomplete sentence) You gambled (sp), you got caught.... Suck it up and deal with it(grammar)! This has nothing to do with any other coach or any other school! Have some class.

You did well other than spelling, grammar, punctuation, sentence structure. You may apply the same grade to your later posts as well.

F (with a curve)

Anonymous said...

My comment goes towards all the people saying negative things about South Meck. I am a graduate of the class of 2007 & I feel that many of you have no right to say such things. You have no clue what happens at that school unless you attend or you have a child enrolled there so please do not judge our school off of this one incident. My heart goes out to every players mostly the seniors who I kow the most & my brother who plays on the team. Don't let the negative things get you down because you should know as well as everyone else does that you guys played your hearts out this year & that's all that matters.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the English lesson. The following are a few words that I want to review for a test next week:

Losers
Cheaters
Cry Babies
Busted
Caught
Exposed
Scandle
Crooked
Idiots

I know you can help me with sentence structure.....

Anonymous said...

"Thanks for the English lesson. The following are a few words that I want to review for a test next week:

Losers
Cheaters
Cry Babies
Busted
Caught
Exposed
Scandle
Crooked
Idiots"

To the Idiot that posted this let me review something with you that you apparently have no idea about:
The forfeit situation at South Meck

Anonymous said...

You guys call people out like you know them. Well you don't Jey Yokeley is a GREAT player with some unfortunate circumstances. He does not deserve to be put down in any way shape or form. We as in South Meck are in no way cheaters losers or cry babies as you put it! We've had plenty of losing seasons so why would we care so much. We dont care about the game the season we CARE ABOUT OUR PLAYER! The person that some are putting down like he's nothing when YOU DONT EVEN KNOW HIM! "so let's shut up and take our humiliation with dignity." I go to South Meck and will be graduating this year and I am in no way HUMILIATED OVER OUR TEAM! you should be ashamed to even say that if your own kid goes to south! what kind of parent are you?! You must be a band parent...Now lets take a look at Independence football players who are basically drafted to play there! Maybe someone should call them out. Don't blame Coach Martin, the best coach we've had in a long time. Don't blame Jey, our awesome quarterback that we love. Don't blame our football players who had the best teamwork and spirit they've ever had. And DO NOT blame our school! Our school has the most spirit I've ever seen it have through the 4 years i've attended it. We stick together and we will stick together through all of this. Because like Jey said don't punish the team punish him. Our team is a TEAM so if one player is out the whole team is out. Thats how great it is to be a South Meck Sabre! And I'm very proud to claim that title. To everyone who supports us and cares thank you, you were probably there through our victories and losses and you will continue to be there. To those of you who put our school down for someone you don't even know...well go get a life and leave us alone. WE ARE THE SOUTH MECK SABRES!

Anonymous said...

To the obvious AK student---To South Meck Player - Great post. Now that your season is over, maybe you will consider writting. Let's see...How about this one? Why do we lie & cheat then blame others when we get caught... I'd read it. How about the year we beat AK by cheat our A's off? No I got it, Feel sorry for us while we robbed other teams of thier rightful playoff spots.

Don't worry you wouldnt have made it to the playoffs anyway unless you had a schedule of playing only 1st year schools. Funny how you guys are calling US cry babies...if i remember correctly you were the ones not backing up all of that talk you guys did! We would've beat you even without our ineligible player so get over it!

Anonymous said...

November 11, 2007 12:43 AM
Anonymous said...
Yeah man, South Meck cheated man and you can't do that. People need to really leave Independence aloon on this one man. Independence runs a class program over there man, no matters what zip codes and adresses people are having man. Just because South Meck cheated man, don't try to be giving flack to Independence man. That is just some terrible acts by all you "fans" and "parents" man. Seriously, Independence does not cheat or they wouldn't have lost any games this year man. But they probably won't lose again this year, especially if they beat Butler man. Knotts is the man, man.


Honestly, how many times can you say man? Man! O and news flash Butler is better than Indy any day! I'm glad they beat Indy!!!

Anonymous said...

"The poster shows his lack of knowledge by associating Knotts and the Leaks. Remember CJ Leak led the Indy team against Knotts and WC for city supremacy from 1996-1998. Knotts would not arrive at Indy until Chris Leak was a sophmore and CJ was two years out of high school. When you accuse someone and attempt to support the accusation with info that undermines your case you lose any credibility."

I guess you show your lack of knowledge of the Leaks if you believe that they were at Independence legally. Correct me if I'm wrong, but CJ started out at South Meck, and the only reason he and Chris were able to play at Independence is because their father got them an apartment in Independence's zone.

Anonymous said...

From a South Meck parent. The youngster and his family did all the right things and filed all the right papers that CMS required. In fact, we now understand that his Grandmother may have been named his legal guardian. More may come today or tomorrow if the family pursues legal action.

Also remember the following:
1) He used to live in the South Meck district and he and his family are originally from the South Meck district, 2) he had siblings that graduated from South Meck, 3) the number of schools he previously attended is immaterial as to the issue as to whether he is now legally a South Meck student (so quit bringing it up), 4) CMS, not South Meck, dropped the ball in ill advising his family (assuming his Grandmother was not named legal guardian when his Mom was trying to save her life, 5) last, lets not forget that a high school student should not have to be the one that suffers do to a CMS administrator error. This is high school, not pro sports. CMS needs to step up and take the blame for not having the family do the legal guardian step after the family went to CMS and asked them what to do. Vicki Hamilton and her team failed this family.

Anonymous said...

I lived in the same neighborhood as Chris in High School. Amazing that while I attended South Meck and he lived in the Independence district, he was able to walk his dog up and down our street...

Kenny said...

From being a former South Meck player 2yrs ago I feel sorry for the football team and the school. It doesn't make since on how they went a full season before the school system and NCHAA actually looked into it and found something out. How you let them play a full season and a winning season at that and then right before there first playoff game say they cant play because they found out one of there players was ineligible. Thats just not right.But thats my team and once your a Sabre your always one..so in my book the record stands 7-4 and potential State Champs. This team proved alot..from ppl saying they weren't going to be good...they came out and performed every week and they played together as a team, something I wish the team would of done when i was there. But Congradulations to the Sabres...your season counted and thats all that matters.

Anonymous said...

How can you blame a kid for wanting to play his senor year of football with other kids he's known since elementary school. His situations brutal and Jey Yokeley and the whole Yokeley family is in my prayers, along with all the other south meck boys. Good luck to all of you, none of you did anything to deserve this

Anonymous said...

I am setting the record straight with facts. My knowledge is obviously superior to the individual that brought the Leak's, Indy, and Tom Knotts into this.

The comment was made that Tom Knotts recruited the Leak brothers. I wrote that was impossible because
Knotts was the coach at West Charlotte until the beginning of Chris Leak's sophmore year.

It is a fact that CJ Leak initially moved into an apartment in the Indy district. In August 1998 he bought a house in the subdivision that backs up to Wilson Grove Road. The backdeck of his home faced directly into the Indy parking lot. He sold the home in December 2003. I can provide more indepth info if needed.

Chris Leak entered Independence in the fall of 1999 one year after the home was bought. Tom Knotts took the coaching job at Indy in May 2000.

There are some facts.

I do not think South Meck cheated. I think they should have played the game and self reported Tuesday with an attorney beside them with a plan to get this corrected. If they correct it now it will screw up sixteen other teams.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand why anyone, young or old, athlete or not, would ever do this to a group of high school kids. Who ever this reporter is must not have a soul, to take from us something we've worked for from summer and before. And just stop all the talk about looking into other schools like Independece, I would never wish this upon any other team, not even the class-less AK. This is just a horrible all around event and i hope when it all cleans up you see that South isn't a bad place at all, just honest, do-gooding, christian kids, playing football

Anonymous said...

This is all about KARMA. Their Head Coach has no character. He is a mercenary individual who only cares about himself. Before you South Meck folks start defending him too much, ask yourself, "What do we really know about him?" If you want a Coach who will try to win at any cost, he is your guy. If you want a Coach who instills character and class in his players, keep looking. You guys might want to poke around a little bit in his past. Nobody who really knows him was suprised. Really sorry for all the other players though.

Anonymous said...

I haved played football at south meck for four years now, this was my senior year and it was taken from me. All me and my friends talked about was how this group of seniors were going to change this football program around, and when Coach Martin and his staff stepped in my junior year, I knew we were gonna have a magical season. This year was the most special time of my life and memories i will never forget, i just want to thank all the supporters out there for south meck, and just say i love all my bros on the team and the coaches and the fans and family i will never forget this time, even though it had to end this way, i would do it all over again in a heart beat. I am a Sabre forever.

Anonymous said...

Dont say that about Coach Martin, my man he taught me alot more thann just football, but life and he will always be my coach forever, he is the head of the FCA at South and is a very strong christain man, and most importantly a great father to his kids and husband to his wife so dont say nothing about Coach Martin. None of this is his fault, so back off for real.

Anonymous said...

"It is a fact that CJ Leak initially moved into an apartment in the Indy district. In August 1998 he bought a house in the subdivision that backs up to Wilson Grove Road. The backdeck of his home faced directly into the Indy parking lot. He sold the home in December 2003. I can provide more indepth info if needed."

So they were there illegally then?

Anonymous said...

Has anyone heard Martin say he was NOT aware? Not Once? Has anyone heard the AD say that he was not aware of the violation? If a repoter who was only working for the Observer for less than 2 years knew, do you not think a Coach who has been around did not know. As far ash im heading the CFA - How, with all of the racial remarks that I heard him make! Please.

Anonymous said...

SOUTH MECK #1 KEEP HATIN BABY

Anonymous said...

Regarding Leak and the question, "so they were there illegally?" I do not know what the rules on residences were in 1996 or 1997. My reason for writing was to debunk the statement that Knotts was recrutied the Leak's. Chris Leak lived with his complete family in a house his father (Curtis Sr) owned that was in the Indy district over a year before he entered high school there.

To answer the question, No Chris Leak was not illegal.

Anonymous said...

In response to:

Thanks for the English lesson. The following are a few words that I want to review for a test next week:

Losers
Cheaters
Cry Babies
Busted
Caught
Exposed
Scandle
Crooked
Idiots

I know you can help me with sentence structure.....

Alright my little AK friend, I’ll take a stab at your small minded test. Get you dictionary ready so you can follow.

The IDIOTS from AK who posted the aforementioned text have been EXPOSED for the CRY BABIES they are. I walked the CROOKED stairway to the visitor side of the AK stadium one blustery October evening. I enter the top of the bleachers just as Donte Williams CAUGHT a 58 yard touchdown pass from Jey Yokley. The South Mecklenburg offense EXPOSED the defense of AK as Matt Hoehn, Trey Strickland and Matt Jones BUSTED holes for a team rushing effort of 350 total yards. The run defense led by David Scott and Daniel Mayo limited the rushing attack by the LOSERS at AK. The AK LOSERS passing game faired no better against outstanding play by defensive backs Donterious Wallace, Ben Jones, Nick Fadero, Chad Elbert, Ian Tudor, and Erick Dukes The defense effectively buried the AK LOSERS under an avalanche of hard hits and passes defended. Preston Couch continued his fine special teams play, even blowing-up an AK kick returner. The AK LOSERS must have been calling the Sabres real CHEATERS as Colton Cariaga kicked a drop kick through the uprights. Poor AK faithful didn’t even know that a drop kick is a historically correct way of kicking field goals and extra points and is based at the very foundation of American Football. The real SCANDAL of this game is not that John Ross (the last South Meck senior to be mentioned in this text) was unavailable to play the game, due to injury. The real SCANDAL is instead that the AK popinjay who challenged me to write a text using “big” words actually misspelled one of the words. The word is spelled SCANDAL not scandle. Please ask for a dictionary for Christmas, so that you can correctly complete an application as a Sanitation Engineer upon receiving your GED next spring.

You are welcome.

Anonymous said...

To the blogger who posted the negative, offbased comments about Coach Martin: I cannot believe you would post such things and I demand that you retract these statements. I don't care who you are, or what you think you know about his past, I am telling you from personal experience that you are WRONG and that despite your efforts, you cannot tarnish his image in the eyes of the South Meck football family. I have played for him for 2 years,I am a senior captain, and I am the PRESIDENT, yes I said PRESIDENT of the South Meck FCA chapter, of which Coach Martin is the club advisor. He is an honest, christian, and family man who brought pride and success to the South Meck Football program. You call him a "mercenary" and say he will win at all costs. I am a starter on both sides of the ball and when I injured my knee this year, despite my begging him to let me play, Coach Martin forced me to sit out 2 games because he cared for my safety first. You have the nerve to call him a racist yet I have heard with my own ears, African-American teammates call him, and I quote, "A father figure", and "like a father to me". We also have 4 African-American coaches on our dedicated, hard-working coaching staff that Coach Martin assembled. I don't care how you know Coach Martin, or what beef you have with him, or what you think you know about his past, your assertions are shallow, offbased, and flat out untrue. In the 2 years that he has been a Sabre, Coach Martin has displayed nothing but character, integrity, and leadership. He will always be my Coach.

Anonymous said...

SO YES SOUTH MECK DID BEAT AK get over it
u guys played DIRTY i never seen soo many punches in a pile up
OUR OFFENSE only got the ball what 3 times and we scored those times

OFF the field you guys are even dirtier... spreading cow crap around the front of our school yes real classy guys.. just because your school is filled with roaches dont try to mess up our school.. i guess that one came back to bite ya


ANYWAYS...........
AK IS STILL IN THE PLAYOFFS
south is not... tear tear
so stop hatin on AK were a second year team and were doin a GREAT JOB last season is in the past

its real sad what happened to yall but

ITS ALWAYS A GREAT DAY TO BE A KNIGHT
so you sabres who couldnt transfer over to AK stop hatin its getin old real fast

Anonymous said...

Ok, so here's the bottom line.

Everyone that goes to AK that keeps writing on these blogs just quit. What are you trying to say or prove? So what if you are still in the playoffs and so what if you think South Meck plays dirty. The only thing that matters in football is the score at the end of the game and so far its been 61-0 and 41-13 in favor of South. Whether they threw punches in the pile or kicked your coach in the mouth it doesn't matter, they still won. You can say or think whatever you want about how great you guys are for beating a first year school and a group of non-conference teams that combine for an awful record. Great for you and congratulations on making it to the playoffs, but until your side of the scoreboard is higher than South Mecks, just do yourself and AK a favor and shut up.

Anonymous said...

Here, here... I concur. AK go get your on blog.

Anonymous said...

You guys at South are so mean. Did you know your band members played over our band when we were plying our fight song. That was supposed to be our fight song time. And somebody dumped their ashtray right on our parking lot. Once, when our cheerleaders went over to visit with the south meck cheelrleaders, the south meck fans actually booed our cheerleaders. That is not very good team spirit!!! And who cares if you beat our football team at homecoming. We are still purple playoff people. And our grass is real green and the lines are pretier then your grass. oh yea, Our cross country team is better than yours. So there. Now go and stick that in your nose and wear it.

Anonymous said...

Let me just say that Im a senior at AK and I am ashamed of my school right now. What happened to South Meck is unfair, and was NOT the result of cheating. THEY DIDNT EVEN KNOW. So for the love of God everyone from AK shut the hell up. You're embarrassing.

Anonymous said...

How many athletes in CMS are living with grandparents who do not have legal custody? When a Hispanic parent moves back to Mexico and leaves a child behind in the U.S., the child is considered homeless and abandoned and protected by federal law. Numerous African-American students live with grandparents or move from family member to family member, none of whom have legal custody. Are they being ruled ineligible? If the student in question had chosen to attend Charlotte Catholic, he would have been allowed to participate because they do not have to abide by the same "residency" regulations. Where is the justice in this ruling?

Anonymous said...

Careful

It might be true that there are less residential reguirements to attend catholic but should someone come to catholic from a public school they have to sit out a year. This is the requirement that allows catholic to play in the public school league which is unlike the other private schools

Anonymous said...

So far I have seen the following "called out" by South fans:

- Independence
- Ardrey Kell
- Butler
- Providence
- Charlotte Catholic
- The Charlotte Observer
- CMS
- NCHSAA
- Ryan Basen
- Nora Carr

I have yet to see a South Meck fan even question the role of any of the following:

- The South Meck coach
- The South Meck AD
- The South Meck principal
- The family of the player involved

Hmmmm....

Anonymous said...

Everything that has been posted on this blog shows how much people care about this issue. It is a controversial subject and there have been many good points on both sides. I would, however, like to point out three major points that bothered me in the previous blogs:

1. The fact that no one that supports South Meck has brought up:
- The South Meck coach
- The South Meck AD
- The South Meck principal
- The family of the player involved
�is because we obviously do not agree that they are to blame. Considering we have made it perfectly clear that we support our school, why would we question the foundations of our programs and the leaders of those programs.

We have not laid blame on other high schools. We have merely pointed out that it is surprising that our program has had the only recent major discrepancy in player eligibility. There are so many competitive high schools in the Charlotte area with players of questionable legitimacy. Recruitment of any kind is not allowed in high schools, even though we know it goes on everywhere. If the rules do not allow it, the rules should be enforced everywhere. It is not right if what we did was recruit a player. I am of the opinion however, that we did not in fact recruit Jey. He came of his own accord to be with his friends, and those around him he cared about.

2. He switched schools a number of times. This is true. He switched because he wanted to get ahead and be the star QB of a football team. This is not proven to be true. No one can sit on this computer and tell us what the goal of his family was when he decided to transfer. It is very likely that he had not found a comfortable surrounding that he could thrive in and have the optimal high school experience. People transfer all the time. It takes an athlete (a good one for that matter) for people to care?

3. The biggest concern I had with a few posts, were the vulgar comments directed at our team that we stole another high schools spot in the play offs. Does one player make a team good or bad? No. Does a team depend on all of its players to act as one body working towards the win? Yes.

A person can not say, without completely disregarding the basic fundamentals football (as well as all sports), that we stole another teams spot. Every player on the team worked harder and longer than many previous years with high hopes and long term goals. This year DID have extreme fan participation. In the words of my younger sister who is a sophomore at South, �this year our football team made our school everything that it is.�

The decision of a school board to disqualify South Meck�s team, does not gives others the right to disqualify the effort and sweat that came from the teams individual players.

If you want South Meck to take the blame and stop whinning � I ask is what we are being blamed for really in our hands? Is what we are whinning about truly not a legitimate complaint?

Okay, you win; we played hard, stayed true to ourselves, stayed within the rules as we knew them and got screwed. �You can put the blame on me, even though the blames on you.� Did we disgrace our name? No! South Meck will always have Sabre Pride

Anonymous said...

Was Jey the starter at Christian the all of last year? Someone wrote in this thread that he had 20 td passes. Is that correct?

Anonymous said...

I think it is interesting that no one checked the NCHSAA web site for eligibility requirements. The eligibility requirements are very clear and detailed that living with a family member that is not your parent or legal guardian will make you ineligible to play sports for that team. So to say the coach, the AD and the principle should hold their heads up high that they did nothing wrong is just not correct. It is their responsibility to understand and verify all eligibility requirements before a player is placed on a roster. I do feel terrible for all the players on the team it clearly wasn’t any of their faults, but they have to pay a very high price for school officials that clearly should have known the rules.

Anonymous said...

Just to correct a few inaccuracies - Jey's only sibling graduated from Weddington, not South Meck. Jey enrolled at South Meck in January, 2007. His mom wasn't diagnosed until June. The situation is terrible, but I don't think his mom's cancer was the reason he was "living with his grandparents". I'm sure there are other cases of abuse within CMS, but, with Jey's numerous transfers, his case is certainly one that should have raised a flag. Maybe the reporter picked up on Jey's situation because it does seem so blatant. Although the reporter's inquiry caused a sad situation, I don't believe that he should have failed to report it. I'm very sorry for the South Meck players and community, but the fact is that Jey was illegal, and was caught. It's hard to believe that no one at the school or in the family thought to verify his eligibility. It sounds as if, given South Meck's strong running game, this team could have made the playoffs with a legal quarterback, and that's the real heartbreaker.

Anonymous said...

If it is so easy to find the ruling on the Internet, then why did CMS officials not look to find it there. Instead of actually finding out the eligibility rules, they decided to approve him definitely.

Anonymous said...

Considering we have made it perfectly clear that we support our school, why would we question the foundations of our programs and the leaders of those programs.

You are confusing "support" with "blind allegiance". It is the JOB of the coach and athletic director to ensure that all players are eligible.

I will repeat that: It is the AD's and coach's JOB to ensure that players are following eligibility rules. They are the ONLY possible people who can be blamed for this situation. It is just ridiculous to go around casting blame on the board who makes the rules, on the reporters who discover violations, on the other schools that have successful programs, when it was the employees of South Meck who screwed up.

So far I have seen the following posted by SM supporters: "This is the most unfortunate thing that has happened in the history of South Mecklenburg". "[The reporter] should be fired immediately and never be able to voice his opinion again". "Why would we question the foundations of our programs and the leaders of those programs". "This year our football team made our school everything that it is."

Do these sound like the words of people who have perspective on the situation? Do these sound like the words of students at a school you would want your child to go to? To me, they sound like the words of people who consider football more important than anything else in the school community; who consider wins more important than freedom of the press; who think that a playoff forfeit is worse than the many real tragedies that have struck South Meck over the years (including the death of a student right in front of the school less than a decade ago).

I'm inclined to think that the reason South fans want to blame everybody else for this mess, is because it's too painful for them to face the reality of the situation: the football team they foolishly treated like idols turned out to be humans after all.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous,

After reading the 100 comments, why I do not know, curiosity?

This is pure laughter. Why do the word "recruiting" come up in this blog? Nobody said the kid was recruited. He made a decision to go another high school.

I do not care what CMS or the AD or the coach told the parents. Any educated people know in order to attend any high school in a certain zone you must be in residency. And in order to do that you must have a custodial parent residing at the address. This is nothing new. No questions were needed.

Scenario: I live in the Weddington school district. I want my son to goto South Meck. How do I do this? I have relatives that live in the district. In order to do this, someone needs to be his legal guardian. Does not take a Bachelor degree to figure that out and you do not need to be told by CMS.

Anonymous said...

To the poster right above: the way I understand the rules, a student can live with a relative in another district and attend school. But they cannot play sports unless this relative is a legal guardian.

Can someone in the know comment?

I think this is done to make it harder for student athletes to skip around. It's one thing to let a kid live with you, but it's another to be legally declared his guardian.

Anonymous said...

SEND A MESSAGE TO NCHSAA

This was pasted from the meckdeck blog:

...We are left with an impossibly sad outcome. Adults snatching away a beautiful season of effort and compassion from kids to serve their own power and prestige. Charlie Adams and the NCHSAA should apologize for the great harm they have done. But won’t. Because they do not have to. There’s nothing in the rule book about apologies.

Bonus Observation: I was thinking hard about going to the Butler-Independence playoff game, but as some of my ticket money will be routed back to Adams and the NCHSAA, I won’t be doing that. I suggest others do the same. In fact, I think all CMS schools should take the portion of the playoff gate that is supposed to go to the Chapel Hill mafia and instead donate the money to breast cancer research in protest of the injustice done to South Meck players, fans, and students.

Time Warner, Wendy’s, Wachovia, and Ford are NCHSAA sponsors whom you may also want to contact regarding this decision by their partner.

Anonymous said...

You know why none of the students have the same perspective that you do on this situation? Did you ever realize that they are high school students, and they take high school sports seriously? Most of them do not know about the boy who was killed in front of the school and if they did they don't remember. You have to realize that students have a different outlook on life than adults do. I'm a student at South, and the whole school has changed since the football team has been winning. Excitement builds up every week until gameday on Friday. I don't know where you went to high school, or even if you're still in high school but it doesn't matter. I don't know about you, but I love watching the team come out onto the field and actually have other people paying attention to it. Honestly to me there's nothing like the Friday night lights, mainly because most of the players on the team are my friends and former teammates. And while this may not be the worst thing that has ever happened to South, it is one of the worst in the last few years in my opinion.

And also, I don't get where you keep getting that we are blaming the reporter or other schools or anything. First of all we think that CMS should step up and say that they are at least partly at fault, but thats beside the point. We mentioned the reporter because we cannot figure out why somebody would stalk a person at all, nonetheless over a high school football team (I believe this isn't the first time he's done this either). Also, nobody is blaming the other schools, we are just wondering why players that do well against a team from Mint Hill end up playing for them the next year. It's not their fault that we got caught on a miscommunication, but we would like to see everything that has to do with these eligibility rules to be fair.

Anonymous said...

anonymous said...

for the person who made the comment about freedom of the press..

what about the fact that so many people, including yourself, have bombarded the Yokeley's personal life. You talk about rights given to us by our forefathers, but yet you can't say something about the invasion of jey and his family's privacy.

and by the way buddy, how can you say that we shouldn't take football as serious as we are and that it shouldn't be such a big part of the community.. after all, it was important enough for you to comment on, Mr. closed-minded hypocrite.

One more thing:

I am a senior on South's football team and a senior class council member. I've been trying to forget about this whole situation and move on but the entire school (well, a good portion) just won't let me. You're damn right football is important. It has created a positive energy in our school, one that we have not had since I've been there, and our season has been an inspiration to many. Kids have told me personally, that our football team is the only reason they have for coming to school anymore. Shoot, if thats what it takes to keep a few kids in school, why argue. I know it may be hard to get it through some of your's thick skulls, but yes, football will remain a big part of south meck's profile. I love Jey, and every additional shot that people continue to take on him, will only strengthen our bond and there is nothing you can do or say to take that away.

Jey is a MAN, and has taken all this as a MAN should. He is more MAN than anyone on here who hides behind their computer screens and types out these cowardice and thoughtless remarks towards him, anonymously. Jey has virtually lost: friends, a 7-4 record and a play-off berth (first one for south in 13 years), almost all college interest and recruiting, and he and his family's credibility. In addition, he has had to deal with his mother's breast cancer and has witnessed the pain his fellow teammates, coaches, and south meck staff members have gone through which he said he doesnt have a problem taking the blame for. and yet amidst all these unfotunate occurances, his main priority is making sure that that our principal and AD aren't at fault.

You people have it so twisted that your eyes haven't caught up with your rapidly spinning heads.

Think about the broader picture before you focus in on what you think you know, or what you think you heard

Anonymous said...

Adams and the NCHSAA should apologize for the great harm they have done.

By enforcing the rules? Do you think South should have gotten a free pass because they had a good year?

And also, I don't get where you keep getting that we are blaming the reporter or other schools or anything.

Take a look at the following posts: 11/9 10:42, 11/10 12:13, 11/10 12:23, 11/10 9:17, 11/10 1:10, 11/10 2:08. Those are just the posts blaming the reporter, and frankly I got tired of listing them... I'm sure there are more further down. How can you read these and not see the blame game going on?

what about the fact that so many people, including yourself, have bombarded the Yokeley's personal life. You talk about rights given to us by our forefathers, but yet you can't say something about the invasion of jey and his family's privacy.

You forfeit privacy when you break the rules. Obviously they don't teach law at South.

If anything South Meck should take the following lessons from this incident:

1) Follow the rules on the front end and it will spare you a lot of pain on the back end.

2) Don't EVER let yourself believe that sports is a defining element of your life. It's not. A bunch of boys playing a game is not something that should control your life.

3) Winning doesn't justify cheating, no matter what the powers-that-be in pro and college sports might believe. If you aren't doing it the right way, you don't deserve to be honored for it at all. That's supposed to be one of the basic lessons of high school athletics, and obviously that value is not widely shared in the South Meck community.

Anonymous said...

I’m not a CMS Administrative bureaucrat, but I am a thinker and a South Meck Football Player’s Parent:

Here are a few observations:
1) A CMS school's AD is a low paid scapegoat that buffers CMS from responsibility. At CMS the buck stops at the lowest common denominator
2) CMS created this cauldron of confusion by instituting the magnet school program. Here is a scenario (and please I am not calling out any school, I am simply using this as an example it does not apply to any student) Myers Park has an IB program (this is a great program for the STUDENTS). They have kids come in from all over the county. Example: A student comes out of East Meck’s district and is a star softball player for the MP team. I think the player has a right to play. I think MP has a right to embrace and play the player. I think EM has a right to look at that with a skeptic’s eye. I understand that the kid can go to school at MP. The thing I do not understand is how CMS can qualify softball player living in EM district to play at MP and get that approved at the NCHSAA. Somewhere along the line that question must have come up. So following the logic: IB Student lives out of district can play at MP, while Jey lives in SM district, is registered to go to SM, and yet is unable to play at SM.
3) An argument is made that Jey supposed to go to SM for two semesters before he plays: two arguments to the contrary:
a) Jey coming from a private school, not from a public school (which is where the rule is supposed to apply - as I understand it)
b) The MP softball player above is an outstanding freshman coming into the program, and yet she doesn’t sit out 2 semesters.
4) Catholic has players coming in from all over the Metro area. I think they should be allowed to play as long as the meet the criteria set up by the NCHSAA. I just want the same criteria to apply to all schools. So, if Catholic gets to play players from all over the metro area then so should everyone else. Scenario: Again a Catholic tennis player comes in as a freshman and plays right away, but doesn’t sit out.

The problem I have with reporter is that he only decided to do half the story. The easy part where he didn’t have to do use his wit, common sense, and/or intelligence (some would argue you can’t use what you don’t have). If he was a truly good reporter he would have followed the trail to the steps of CMS and asked some of the questions posed in my post and by others here on this blog. There you go Mr. Basen we have done your thinking for you now go and stalk Peter Gorman and Vicki Hamilton as doggedly as you have the Yokeleys. Ask the questions and report on something of substance.

Lastly, here is a warning for all who have kids coming through the sports programs at CMS and for people who vote and pay taxes in Charlotte Meck. This entire sad episode will be whitewashed and left strangling in the wind waiting for the dust to clear. If you haven’t experienced this confusing policy yet then you may consider yourself lucky. Until the CMS administration addresses all the possible scenarios for violations, and then you are sitting in a possible Russian roulette paperwork snafu with CMS holding the gun. CMS needs to succinctly lay out all scenarios for violations to the NCHSAA, have the governing body come down with rulings upfront and then let the rules apply to everyone everywhere equally. But, sadly, the CMS administration is too busy trying to extract more votes for school bonds so that the budget can balloon above the 1 billion dollars it already spends. The budget per student is about $8500 per student per year. Money well spent? Ask the SM players.

Anonymous said...

Eligibility is the duty of the coach and AD. I do not think South Meck cheated. I do think they did not research this this particular athlete as indepth as he should have been based on his past circumstances.

I have read several reasons why Jey ended up at South. It seems strange that every school he has been at except South had a strong qb Weddington-Sunseri and then Boone. Hoggard-Miley. Christian-Bard. Regardleses of the situation with the father's job, mother's illness, house sale, et al to change schools that often is suspicious in nature. These occurences are even more reason for extra due diligence on the part of the staff at South.

Is the poster referring to the Myers Park softball player speaking of a hyothetical situation or is that a factual one? If factual does East Meck not have an IB?

I am not a Catholic supporter by any means but the majority of the students and athletes come through the Catholic system. If a student transfers in from a local school they do not allow them to play sports for a year. It is the only Catholic high school in the area so they will get kids from all over the area. Simple. They are no better in sports than Providence or Butler. I think with South getting its swagger back we will see a continued climb to prominence in its athletic teams.

Anonymous said...

Again we have a SM supporter who does not understand two simple principles:

A) You must be eligible by NCHSAA rules in order to play varsity sports at a CMS school.

B) It is the job of the AD at each high school to ensure that every athlete is following rule A.

That's it. Period. End of story. It's not anybody's fault but South's that this happened. Of course it's disappointing and we all wish it hadn't happened, but South has only itself to blame (specifically its own AD, and the coaching staff that should have insisted on an eligibility check) for the incident. Blaming anyone else is just demonstrating a lack of responsibility, and frankly that is a foul thing to see from an educational institution. No wonder so many South players have shown up on here and shown that they lack perspective on this subject.

Anonymous said...

I was discussing the South Meck incident with some friends from Rock Hill, they had an interesting story about Coach Martin concerning a similar situation when he was coaching in S.C and how he caused another team to be kicked out of the state playoffs. It seems that Coach Martin was a Tennis Coach of some reputation in S.C., he was playing another team in the semi-finals to determine who was going to go to the state championship from the upstate. He had told some of his players parents that they were outmatched going into the match. He noticed that the opposing coach made an error on his official scorecard during the match and he chose not to mention it. His team was beaten by the opposing team in the match. The next day he called the S.C High School League and reported the technicality on the scorecard. The other team was thrown out of the state championship game and Coach Martin's team was allowed to go in their place. I bet there were a lot of heartbroken kids on that team too. If you believe in the phrase, " what goes around comes around" then what happened at South Meck. proves this true. It is unfortunate that a lot of really good kids had to be hurt in the process. Just thought that might help put things in perspective. I for one am glad my kid plays for a coach with some character at AK.

Anonymous said...

"Don't EVER let yourself believe that sports is a defining element of your life. It's not. A bunch of boys playing a game is not something that should control your life."

Once again it might not be a defining element of YOUR life but to some people it is. And remember that a high school football player said that. To him, during FOOTBALL SEASON, football definately defines his life. It is part of school, and if school does not define a high schooler, I'm not exactly sure what does. In most high schoolers lives they have school and any extra-curricular activities, their job if they have one, and friends and family. I think that sports are definitely a defining element of his life right now.

"You forfeit privacy when you break the rules. Obviously they don't teach law at South."

No, everybody has the right to privacy. If what you say is true then if you have ever gotten a speeding ticket, I can just come over to your house and spy on you and your family.

Anonymous said...

Once again it might not be a defining element of YOUR life but to some people it is. And remember that a high school football player said that. To him, during FOOTBALL SEASON, football definately defines his life.

If that is the attitude that South is pushing on their players, it's a bad program. And let's not shy away from saying it, just because it might hurt some people's feelings.

Athletics are a secondary element of education. The only reason they even exist is for character development and physical fitness purposes. The instant that a football game becomes more important than any other part of what goes on in a school day, football has become too important. And it's the coaching staff's job to make that clear to their players from Day One.

Well-coached programs constantly emphasize that football is not about a game, it's about preparing for life. If South students are seriously treating this incident as a "tragedy" and not as a learning experience, the football program has failed them (again) for failing to provide proper perspective. The players should be the FIRST to step up to the plate and explain that the end of the season isn't the end of their lives, yet the opposite is happening and that's a bad sign for South football.

No, everybody has the right to privacy. If what you say is true then if you have ever gotten a speeding ticket, I can just come over to your house and spy on you and your family.

Your second sentence is nonsense, so I'll address the first:

If I get a speeding ticket, it can (and, in smaller towns, WILL) be reported in the newspaper. And if my participation in a particular program depends on having a clean record, I can be kicked out of that program very publicly. We see this all the time when people break the law, or in this case when they break rules set down by a state governing board.

There is no legal expectation of "privacy" when a person publicly violates a law or regulation. To suggest otherwise is nonsense; perhaps this is another lesson that South students can take away from this incident (since they don't seem to be learning any others).

Anonymous said...

First of all let me make it clear that whatever I say does not represent the South Football program in any way. With that being said, football doesn't have to be more important than school to be a defining element of somebody's life. If you believe that it builds character, then you say that that it should not define you, then that doesn't make sense to me. While this may not be a tradgedy, it is a pretty bad situation, and is depressing for the kids. What if all the money that you worked hard for in the past 5 months was suddenly taken from you. I'm sure that would not be a very good feeling for you.

Anonymous said...

From SM Parent above:

The MP softball player is a hypothetical. You can use any scenario you want. An Indy swimmer goes to Berry Academy. A West Meck golfer goes to the School of the Arts. Just take what ever school district, plug in an athlete from any sport, and then move them to a magnet school. How does CMS justify this to the NCHSAA and get approval for this to happen? I’m not complaining that it is happening; I just want to know what the procedures and policies are.

Why don't we just have a sports related magnet school and end all the speculation about championships?

As far as Catholic goes, I was simply trying to figure out how a student comes from other areas (even in the Catholic system) and is legal to the NCHSAA. This is not an indictment of Catholic; again I am trying to understand the procedures and policies.

So any truthful knowledgeable help to clear up some of these questions are welcome. If you just want to leave snide comments, please identify that you are going to bloviate upfront and I won’t waste time reading your poison pen pandering. Unless of course you are going to interject some wit and are able to create jocularity. I could use a little jocularity about now.

Peace

Anonymous said...

Ummmmm, the first five months of the year all my money is taken from me and every other tax paying citizen. So kids, do yourselves a favor. Go to school for as long as you can, try the six year plan in college, then get your MBA and your Doctorate. Cause the Man is out here and he's going to keep you down.

Anonymous said...

“The only reason they even exist is for character development and physical fitness purposes.”

Yea I don’t know if you are familiar with the Police Athletic League (PAL) but if you mean to tell me that “The only reason they (sports) even exist is for character development and physical fitness purposes” then you are sadly mistaken. The PAL was founded in an effort to keep kids out of trouble by having them play organized sports. Throughout the years, it has kept kids off the streets and while it most certainly hasn’t helped everyone, it has to have at least kept you know this one kid out of a gang, or that one kid from running away, or this one kid from smoking’ crack, or that one kid from shooting the kid that dates his ex-girlfriend.


a little side note for the author of the following phrase:
“Don't EVER let yourself believe that sports is a defining element of your life”

Some kids wouldn’t have their life period, if sports weren’t there to keep them out of trouble.

The football field (as well as other arena’s) is a great place to blow off steam and hit some kids. If sports didn’t exist what would we do to deal with our aggression, because as you know, kids don’t always deal with their anger in the most appropriate manner.

Also, who has any place to say what is more important in your life. Do you think you‘re God or something. For example, I personally value integrity, perseverance, hard work and leadership over education. These are all things that a simple game of football or soccer, etc. can teach you.

Anonymous said...

Whatever happened to the Daniel Smith case (football player from providence). This kid clearly lived in Union County because as we all know, he threw a party at his Union County residence. Not only was he kicked off the team but he was also expelled for not living in district. Now in the case with Jey, he IS allowed to attend South Meck, but just isn't allowed to play sports, and for that reason, the entire season was forfeited. Now I know Smith played only up to halfway through the season, but how come Providence's record from while he was on the team, stands.

Correct me if im wrong but I do believe that Providence won only one game that Smith played in (against North Meck). So take away that win, does providence make play-offs with a now 3-7 record?

Now with all that said lets look at something. To their knowledge, the Yokeley's, Coach Martin and South's AD did everything necessary to allow Jey to attend South with aspirations of playing football. They spent hours upon hours downtown trying to get things straight with cms (which as we all no now have little say in sports eligibility). Ironically, in the case with Smith, there was not even any substantial effort to make his attendance at providence, much less his status on the football team, compliant with the rules. Yet, the providence football team managed to keep that win (and maybe more, idk) and eventually made it to the playoffs.



Somebody help me out on this one!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
From SM Parent above:

The MP softball player is a hypothetical. You can use any scenario you want. An Indy swimmer goes to Berry Academy. A West Meck golfer goes to the School of the Arts. Just take what ever school district, plug in an athlete from any sport, and then move them to a magnet school. How does CMS justify this to the NCHSAA and get approval for this to happen? I’m not complaining that it is happening; I just want to know what the procedures and policies are.

Why don't we just have a sports related magnet school and end all the speculation about championships?

As far as Catholic goes, I was simply trying to figure out how a student comes from other areas (even in the Catholic system) and is legal to the NCHSAA. This is not an indictment of Catholic; again I am trying to understand the procedures and policies.

So any truthful knowledgeable help to clear up some of these questions are welcome. If you just want to leave snide comments, please identify that you are going to bloviate upfront and I won’t waste time reading your poison pen pandering. Unless of course you are going to interject some wit and are able to create jocularity. I could use a little jocularity about now.

I will help you out. You are Eligible to play sports at ANY school in YOUR COUNTY. Key word being YOUR COUNTY, as long as you meet the County rule for Eligibility. So, if you can goto from school A to B via magnet program etc and it is approved, then the state has no problem with that.

The problem at SM was this kid live out COUNTY, I mean is gaudianship lived out of COUNTY. If his mother had sold that house and also live with the grandparents, everything would have been fine.

Everyone should know this rule. You must have LEGAL guardianship in the county to attend a high school in that county. In the old days kids had to pay tuition to attend another school outside their county. So nothing has change. And the Coach and the AD should have known this. They did not need to go downtown to get the paperwork.

And yes, the Providence situation should be turned in and a fine should result from that also.

Anonymous said...

I am dispappointed that you think I made snide comments. I felt my post that questioned the hypothetical situation with the softabll player was honest reasoning. I have been on the SM bandwagon and feel for everyone associated with the program/school.

I have found that the magnet programs are not used that often for athletes to get to certain schools. I am sure some have utilized that method but it appears the simplest and most common way to get to a school is through a residence in that neighborhood whether it is your family residence or not is the issue. Indpendence and Butler for example do not offer magnet programs and West Charlotte has the IB and Open Education. Doubtful many footballers or hoopsters are using those programs to get to WC.

Does CMS allow students to transfer into a magnet program and participate in sports without a non play period? It is my understanding to be eligible for sports while enrollend in a magnet without missing a year you must enter the program in ninth grade or the first year the program is available. Check me on that.

Catholic has been a member of the NCHSAA since the early 1960's. If Catholic has a student transfer into the school from Meck County the student cannot play sports for one year. If the student comes from out of county it must be a change of physical address with proper guardianship. They may have other criteria. I did some research on the Catholic football team a couple of seasons ago and was surprised that the vast majority of the players came through the Catholic school system.

Anonymous said...

If Daniel Smith would have resided in Meck County he would have been allowed to attend Providence for his senior year if he had been enrolled there at the conclusion of his junior year. Crossing the county line appears to be the issue.

Did his family get the approval of CMS to attend school at Providence after the move or did they just not report the change of address?

Anonymous said...

I played football for Catholic and believe me, they do not recruit at all. Almost every kid on the team has been in those schools since at least middle school if not earlier. The real secret to their recent success is long-term coaching from 3rd grade camps up to varsity... same offense, same defense, same teammates, even same coaches to some extent. If CMS teams did this, we'd have the best football programs in the nation hands-down. But CMS kids don't have that same consistency so they have to rely almost entirely on talent to succeed (which is why Garinger can't win even one game, even with a new coach).

Another thing: Catholic is for real when it comes to valuing education over academics. It doesn't take much for Oddo to kick a kid right out of the program. From the first day they put on a raggedy practice jersey, he makes it very clear that the program is about values and character, and if you are not on board with that then you will be gone in a heartbeat.

Anonymous said...

To my MP parent.
The snide comment was not directed at you or the person inquiring about Catholic. We appreciate your support. The snide comment reference was for the human impersonators who hate becasue they have hate in their hearts. And love to report rumors and rumors of rumors that they heard from a friend of a cousin of a person that knew a person that once knew the sister of a aunt of a nephew that once played at a school three counties over from where a coach that used to coach a player that once waited on someone slightly connected to someone etc etc etc.

Peace, The Thinker

Anonymous said...

Well now we have an very interesting conundrum with the Providence situation. Providence did phisically win the game against North Meck had to forfeit the game to Providence. Now Providnece has an illegal player they should forfeit the game as well. To resolve this may I make a bold remedy. Give both losses as wins to Garinger and get them quailfied for some playoff time.
Bada Boom everybody is happy. How's that for jocularity?

Anonymous said...

I think everyone just needs to stay out of it and let the team, school, administration, coaches, Yokeleys and everyone else involved get on with their lives.
Mistakes were made, so who hasn't ever made a mistake before? No one deserves being fired from one mistake. If that was true, none of us would have jobs. It is an unfortunate mistake that had a high price to pay. I resent the fact that people are saying that they are cheaters. Cheaters are people who knowingly play against the rules and bend the rules for their sake. In this case, the knowledge was not there. If so, they would have fixed the problem much earlier in the season before the whole thing was lost. They didn't cheat, they just didn't know the rules. For those people who are wondering why it didn't throw up red flags and why the coach didn't question it...well for your information, he did...several times. Because he came from S.C. not too long ago, he was not well versed with all the N.C. rules, which is why he asked several times if Jey was eligible. He specifically said he did not want something like this to happen. He was reassured several times that everything was fine with his eligiblity. Several people at SM have admitted their fault in this tragedy...I think all they want is for the others to admit their hand in it as well and to remember you're dealing with people's lives and futures. I agree that rules were broken and should be followed...so does SM coaching staff, which is why they self-reported even when they didn't have to...it shows character and incredible strength.
Some of you are saying you talked to someone who knew a situation that someone else told you, etc. about Coach Martin. I have one word for you...GOSSIP. Do you know how much GOSSIP is usually true, very little. So, unless you were there at that tennis match or unless you have talked to Coach Martin or that other tennis coach personally, I don't think you are at liberty to judge anyone or any given situation that you were not part of. All you are doing is spreading rumors and lies about someone you don't even know. I bet if you did know him, you would change your opinion because everyone that does truly know Coach Martin has nothing but positive things to say. Who cares why Jey transferred...it's his right to be happy and do what's best for him and his family...which one of us wouldn't do the same. The family tried to sign off custody, but were told it was not necessary by certain officials. They were misinformed. It was not their intent to do anything illegally in the system. I think everyone involved in this situation has learned from their mistakes. Now, all they want is to start over fresh and get ready for next year a little more knowledgeable and prepared this time. The rest of us need to remember we are dealing with people and their lives. All you are doing when you keep bashing people on these blogs is hurting them even more and there's just no need for that. They have hurt enough. So, let's show some grace and courtesy, and do them all a favor and let this whole mess rest!

Anonymous said...

The previous post about the Coach and his tennis team can easily be confirmed as fact if you only call the S.C. High School League and asked them to confirm the story. It is public record and they will be happy to confirm it as fact. GOSSIP is something that can't be confirmed regardless of how many people the info passed through to get to you.

Anonymous said...

No, Providence did actually physically beat North Meck but if North Meck would have won then they would have had to forfeit that game. So now if Providence had to forfeit who would get credit for the win or would they both just get losses, because South beat Waddell 47-0 and it was discovered that Waddell had an illegal player also.

Anonymous said...

If both teams had illegal players, both should get losses. That's the only logical solution.

Anonymous said...

About Coach Martin's tennis team...yes it's true that his team went to state one year because of a technicality on the other team's roster, that is a fact. But your so called facts about how it happened are mislead by rumors that were being spread around. It didn't happen as your so called friends from Rock Hill say it did. Once again, unless you've gotten the whole story from Coach Martin yourself or were at the match in person, I don't think you can say what he knew or didn't know and what he did or did not do during the match. Besides that, the coach knowlingly changed his roster...Coach Martin did not knowlingy play an ineligible player. If he had known, Jey would not have been playing. His mistake was trusting information given to him was correct, when in fact it was not. There is not a single high school coach out there that knows all the rules of the high school league by heart...they rely on the knowledge of their ADs to help them out. I know I've been a coach. If you look back in history, you'll see that tennis team went to state two years, not just one...so obviosly they had the talent to be there.
I still think you all need to stop meddling in people's lives...I'm sure if we dug around in your past or the past of your precious AK coach, we would find some skeletons there as well...talk to your friends from Rock Hill and Clover and you'll find he wasn't always so popular or the best of character at times either. So, maybe we'll be reading about you one day since you think "what goes around, comes around." Keep spreading things you don't know the whole truth about and I guess we'll be reading some truths and untruths about you too. We have all made mistakes or done things we are not proud of. It is not our place to continue judging others for situations we were not part of, nor is it our place to spread on information that had not been confirmed by the true source. The past is the past, leave it there and move on.

sheri said...

Whomever said that Coach Martin was responsible for a tennis team getting ousted from the playoffs is nuts. Total unadulatered garbage. I had the pleasure of being a "tennis mum" for the clover high school tennis team for 6 years. I had the pleasure of getting to know James Martin and his family - and I can tell you this...Every single player that James coached was given the great gift of having James as their coach. Not only was he their coach - he was their "on court tennis dad" he was a mentor, he was a friend - he was a confidant - he was the most wonderful role model that you would want your boys around. He taught character - he taught fairness - he taught positive attitude - he taught toughness - what parent wouldn't want this for their child...You guys can't think of anything else better to do than sling mud....someone's got to take the blame right??? Let's dig in everyone's closet - we'd all find stuff that we may not be proud of - but believe you me....James Martin has turned that football team around 360 - and from what you can read from the positives....you're probably only jealous that you don't have the kind of coach that south mech has....shame on you for throwing stones...look at the glory he has brought - look at all the positives he has brought - we are talking about football guys - not tennis..My biggest disappointment is James is no longer coaching the boys highschool tennis team - he was the BEST THING Clover had - and we ALL LOVED HIM.....

Anonymous said...

At first I felt a little bad for the boys. Then I found out that Martin and his clowns have been reporting other players and teams to the NCHSAA in a weak attempt to tarnish their programs. As a matter of FACT there are active investigations in Charlotte as a result. This is lower than low. This is not a man of GOD or a man that has any values. South Meck, you are cheaters and I am glad you got caught. What you did was lower than low! If you felt that the Observer ruined a season for your boys, why would you try to do the same? That is a yellow belly redneck move. I hope your cheating A's don't get to play another game. And to the chomp who feels that Martin is like a DAD to you, maybe he is. I wouldn't trust him with any of your moms loser.

Anonymous said...

South Meck football player speaking,

As I see this whole situation with Independence unfold, I have no idea whats keeping me from puking

Anonymous said...

To the person who is calling out Coach Martin...for your information he did not nor did any of his coaches report any other teams. THe same observer reporter that investigated him, investigated the other teams as well and CMS started looking at them. That's how those other teams were exposed. Martin and his staff only learned about them the same way everyone else did...through the media! So, before you blast someone....get your facts straight!

Anonymous said...

Before you defend Martin - Ask him did he make a call to the NCHSAA? If FACT, there were 3 calls (1 e-mail to the Observer), If you want me to post phone records on the web with dates and times I can!

Anonymous said...

Who did he call?

Anonymous said...

There were 2 documented calls to the NCHAA. There was also a e-mail sent to you (Observer). Ask him to go public and deny this. I bet he won't respond...

Anonymous said...

To the Martin hater.... your posts are what happens when a monkey gets a keyboard and is allowed access to the internet. Now go and eat some bananas, swing from a few branches, and throw some poo at vistors to your home at the NC Zoo.

Robert from Gastonia

Anonymous said...

To Robert: I guess these are intended to to racial remarks. Just to set the record straight. I'm a 32 year old white male with an MBA with the heart to call things as they are. As I said before and I repeat it again. If this is not true, then why hasn't Martin denied them himself. Please keep your trailer park trash comments to yourself. You probably would be OK making those remarks around Martin. He ussally does. Birds of the feather.. LOSER.....

Anonymous said...

Wow - Now we get to see what SM fans really stand for!

Anonymous said...

From Robert in Gastonia:

First off, I am from Florida, living in Gastonia with my PhD, a great job, and a beautiful African American family. I don't know where South Meck is and have never seen them play. I was brought to this forum because my nephew plays football here in Gaston County and we watch with great skepticism the shenanigans that goes on over in Mecklenburg County.

Second, I don't know Martin. I have never met him. I don’t even know what he looks like. He just seems to be a guy that one particular anonymous Cro-Magnon with a “MBA” who has a personal vendetta against him. The Cro-Magnon decides to voice his grudge on this forum hiding behind anonymity. That's fine Martin probably doesn't need a stranger sticking up for him, but I have seen this type of ambush before when I played for Coach Spurrier. If you have such a personal grudge, why don’t you man up and face him personally?

Lastly, that was not a racial slur at all. It had to do with your particular evolutionary level on the primate hierarchy. Only a dense, uneducated, bigoted-hearted person would read the comments I said and make a racial connection. Really man, is it so engrained in your heart that when you see a comment about monkeys you think about a particular race? Was that your first thought, seriously?

Anonymous said...

Nice come back Robert. I really loved your recently aquired or new word. Webster would be pleased. However you don't have a PhD and you are pretending to be African American. In fact, your racist TPT mentality still surfaced in your most recent post. You never played for SS and you never earned a degree. You did obtain a High school diploma and currenty are on the county payroll. Need I say more....Instead of posting on this board, you and your crew should be planning for next season at South Meck.

Chris, South Charlotte

Anonymous said...

Chris,

I do not care whether you believe my credentials or not. I live my life. The question that you didn’t answer is: Do you actually believe when ever you hear about monkeys you think about a particular race? Trace back your thoughts when you read that blog and if the first thought was about race, then you have a darkened heart surrounded by racism. I have experienced people such as you throughout my childhood, college, and in the workplace. I decided a long time ago that I can’t change a heart unless I first shine a light on the bigotry that surrounds it. So please take a look at your thought process and consider that maybe just maybe you have some undertones that bring you to these conclusions. The first step in correcting a problem is admitting you have one.

Peace to you and your family during this Holiday season,
Robert

Anonymous said...

Robert very touching. Please remember that this Blog is about South Meck, CMS and the NCHSAA. Did they do the right thing? As I said in my first post, I felt badly for the kids. They did work hard. I do believe that CMS and the NCHSAA could have handled better i.e. a fine. I do have a problem with Martin and his crew attempting to drag down other programs. He DID contact the NCHSAA, CMS and sent an e-mail to the observer. That's just wrong and I have a big problem with that. If this was so hard on the South Meck kids, why would they want the same to happen to other kids? That is hypocrisy. This is not about AK, West Charlotte, Indy or being black or white. The issue is whether SOUTH MECK violated the rules and if so, was the punishment was too harsh? Now Robert I ask of you, if you knew as I do that Martin and his crew did report other schools, would you not be offended as well?

PS - In this day and age we must be careful that the things that we say don't offend others. Diversity 101

Have a happy holiday
Chris

Anonymous said...

Robert very touching. Please remember that this Blog is about South Meck, CMS and the NCHSAA. Did they do the right thing? As I said in my first post, I felt badly for the kids. They did work hard. I do believe that CMS and the NCHSAA could have handled better i.e. a fine. I do have a problem with Martin and his crew attempting to drag down other programs. He DID contact the NCHSAA, CMS and sent an e-mail to the observer. That's just wrong and I have a big problem with that. If this was so hard on the South Meck kids, why would they want the same to happen to other kids? That is hypocrisy. This is not about AK, West Charlotte, Indy or being black or white. The issue is whether SOUTH MECK violated the rules and if so, was the punishment was too harsh? Now Robert I ask of you, if you knew as I do that Martin and his crew did report other schools, would you not be offended as well?

PS - In this day and age we must be careful that the things that we say don't offend others. Diversity 101

Have a happy holiday
Chris

Anonymous said...

Please note that this schmuck (Ryan Basen) is still actually running around peaking in windows and knocking on kids doors after 8:00 PM. Get a life, a real job and, some hair plugs!